Fouling fork bushes for Peel request.

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Peel has one last visual nuance issue with her Roadholder action.
They blur to much fro/aft in phase 3 steering loads to see details
of tire behavior and other resonances I'm so fascinated with now.

I seek the strongest material top hat bushes made in factory length,
that no one else wants because they are too over sized-tight ID
for their stanchions, and have checked this conditon exists,
by careful hammering on bush's OD while placed over stanchion.

If you are a bored handy machinist, what material would be the stiffest
to practically make a bush out of, regardless of the friction characteristics?

Would it be possible to make most the length of the bush bores,
slightly over size but
for ~1/2" wide rims at bush ends slightly undersized-too tight?
 
Ugh that is the question of the decade for me Coco.
Ms Peel as deferring to the 'real' Mrs Emma Peel of TV Avengers series.
She once was a well tuned factory Combat, never out of service
since a show room test bike.
Now she's mostly just a gleam in my eye slowly growing in my living room
with a few vitals, like engine scattered in far off places.

She has a few quirks to work out, fork blur-buzz is one of them.
Fuel slosh and ground effect lift-drop and compression release
if possible to allow starting when tired or injured.
Look here for the plot, though the blower photo is fill in example
not the better finished one for real. Peel is not really a Norton,
nor the color seen. Sites displays time order backwards.
http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x93/hoboter/

hobot
 
Back to the main question,
I made mine from Bronze CA104 yonks ago, still going strong.
 
Not wishing to be personal,,,but what are you trying to say? Some of your posts take some understanding,,,,plain old English would be great. again nothing personal,quote="hobot"]Ugh that is the question of the decade for me Coco.
Ms Peel as deferring to the 'real' Mrs Emma Peel of TV Avengers series.
She once was a well tuned factory Combat, never out of service
since a show room test bike.
Now she's mostly just a gleam in my eye slowly growing in my living room
with a few vitals, like engine scattered in far off places.

She has a few quirks to work out, fork blur-buzz is one of them.
Fuel slosh and ground effect lift-drop and compression release
if possible to allow starting when tired or injured.
Look here for the plot, though the blower photo is fill in example
not the better finished one for real. Peel is not really a Norton,
nor the color seen. Sites displays time order backwards.
http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x93/hoboter/

hobot[/quote]
 
John, don't know how to be more clear, a once fine factory Combat
is being greatly altered to suit my flights of fantasy on and off road.
Mrs Emma Peel, a TV character was a play on words for "M Appeal', M = male.
'Ms' because of its satire value on the New Age blurring of gender roles
and because there will only be one 'Mrs' Peel icon to me.

No one understands me on Peel, don't try - its wasn't in my
world of experiences to make sense of either. I no longer see
other bikes as worthy comparisons to take on in turns any more.
They all have to brake soo slowly to handle real turns,
most average cars can spank em badly but for straight line sprints.
Everyone is so fascinated by coming out of apex ability,
hehehe, its the entry before the turns that excites Ms Peel most.

What I seek in this post is direct help to source 2 under size
ID bushes I can have modified, or pay a Nortoneer to provide.
I no longer think its possible to get the fork blurring slight slack
out of my old Roadholders by past approaches to bushes. Decades
of others have tired em of composites to various bearing metals.
I don't think Nylon can stand my daily commutes loads. I do not
feel fork striction is an issue, though of course locked up forks suck.

hobot
 
hobot said:
Peel has one last visual nuance issue with her Roadholder action.
They blur to much fro/aft in phase 3 steering loads to see details
of tire behavior and other resonances I'm so fascinated with now.
hi hobot,in my experiance for and aft blur could be a wheel balance issue,could it be what we call "pattering"that you are experiancing ,in fast turns it feels like you,re riding a "jack hammer" if so then its a damping issue
 
Sorry this is Ms Peel, nothing that has been expressed as a bother
to Commandos over the decades has anything to do with Peel
anymore. Peel needs to try a new bush design that only
touches stanchions at bush ends.
Tires were balanced and checked for roundness.

The blur has no effect on tire ahesion or handling loads,
nor can it be sensed in my Gold Wing with trailer and side car
smooth massive Ms Peel. Its only a visual nuance that
hinders me seeing some new phenomena, that other bikes
do not expreience long enough to even know exist because
they are all crashing by then.

I saw some posts on bushes not being used because too
tight for existing tubes, so hoped to take them off
their hands, as other wise how many would I have
to order to find a bad set Peel can use. If not
then will have to have my tool and die guy make em.
His place has tough trail bike "trails" and where I first found
out Peel is really fun in stuff ATV's can't handle.

hobot
 
I think she still looks great, one of those rare celebs who chooses to age gracefully, without any plastic rebuilds!

Fouling fork bushes for Peel request.
 
Oh my thanks Don, I'd not seen current photo of for some years.
Hunting picture let me review her career some and heard her interviewed
about 10 yr ago. She was the real deal for the TV part.
Refused to get married, had great love life and a daughter.
She was the first to display real Kung Fu moves on TV, what a gal.

Main theme connection for me is the unexpected performance
in such a stylish compact package.

Was hoping for a unwanted tight bush set or
an engineering caution on my plans.

hobot
 
Hello Hobot, have you thought about changing the whole front end with something more modern from a larger chook chaser or dual purpose bike?
That way you'd get a set of forks capable of off road and more compliant on road, better brakes and some use tubeless tyres also.
They wouldn't be roadholders or original Norton, but they might save your skin more than the originals on the roads you travel.
Maybe you have already thought of this?
Regards Graeme
 
Graeme,

i have more than no interest in anything other than my Roadholders,
I'm actually repulsed by the dirt & trials bikes to 3 brands of sports
bikes forks. Guess I'm spoiled rotten, everything else jostles
too stiff or too wimpy and bouncy.

I'm taking as much mass out everywhere, especially what spins.
Will have some active height and sag stiffness aids as secert
weapon on and off road.

I really don't know if Peel is in league of elite Norton race bikes
handling corner wise. The best of those are all rigid, so
my only reference is other even more rigid moderns
and find they can't even take what Peel delivered on
a mere thrilling commute to work. I almost crashed a
few times on my SV650 in turns and braking going by the
sense of corner stick and pull down of Peel.
I seek nothing else further in her capacity but way more
power to see if I can even upset her.

hobot
 
I understand, I wasn't suggesting using standard dual purpose forks. But modern type ones that had been re sprung and re valved to suit your needs.
They've got to be better than the roadholders on a norton. Mine anyway.
 
Right GRM, you have my best fun in mind suggesting a path
a number of others have gone, modern modified forks installed.

I'm so pleased with the simple mods to my Roadholders I'm
pensive to try to depend on anything else.
I work up to front and rear tire skips outs to access what
I can and can not get away with on tire loading.
All's I know so far the moderns I've tried can hold road
like my Roadholder, on great tarmac or crappy rough off road.

I've two stock Roadholders on Combats and my modified
upgraded SV650 forks to compare, as well as Ninja track
bikes and dirt and trails bikes.

Landdownes kit is on hand to try, but not expected or
desiring much more than I already spoiled on, though
it entirely possible the re-bound dampening of his cartridge
will please me even more on the really rough stuff.

Besides, part of the reason for Ms Peel is rub moderns
nose in their handling with 35 years old technology.

hobot
 
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