Failed burn out in open
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i love the entertainment factor for me and strangers before I get infirm or crippled. This fast and furious riding is almost second nature to me - so much so I will not do it anymore on stupid sloppy ordinary C'dos or super rigid resonating moderns like my famous handling boney SV650. I'm not the least bit offended by likes of Carbon or 1up-3dwn as I once held same opinion till I got Peel triple linked. I only ever take off armor when in my quaint village square in perfect conditions both of me and the square. I did not really strain Trixie that much as did not slam bam drop clutch like in my past avatar photo. Ive no qualms at all to ride slickest hardest old tire on any surface, because I know what to expect - so don't expect much but take opportunity to play w/o much traction as can do it for similar practice as best race tire on best surface but so fast it becomes as Loose as THE Gravel. I do not even go to my mail box w/o helmet and leathers on as had some of my most life threatening EXTREME handling lesions there going 25 mph. I can describe all the issues of literally riding canyon walls horizontal, so now practice it now and then, when feeling strong as the slam bam to get sideways is same as landing off a 4-6ft high ledge.
To be blunt I found I can out ride race instructors and vacationing racers as they don't have the guts or the experience I've had to out ride full traction w/o sliding like lazy dazy flat trackers. That's what i really mean when I say I no longer do this on moderns or old C'dos. Its crazy experiences like Matt, [who I look up to and fear to face in real life], that have taught me more than I can write about and make sense.
My 1st bike P!! was told its best time was 10.49 1/4 mile that won its National event, though have not been able to find race records to back it up. On street tire I know it could beat under 11 sec as I had drag races with the 3 cylinder triple 2 strokes of the era and flat left them behind from first throttle hit to over the ton. They were mid 11 sec machines if IIRC. That
P!! gave me the skill to handle instant tire spin at will in parking lots, intersections and thick hyw traffic, but never got up the nerve to totally skew it to handle highway chicanes, because sat so low it couldn't lean, so this life time am learning all there is to know about turning a cycle fast and sharp as I can. Get that down and the road racing like TT IOM is just relaxing open freeway ease.
Any bike *but Ms Peel* gets wobblely wigglely when pressing to max to hold down or when fighting to lift back up and steering damper only increases the speed a tiny bit before the damper delays fork action enough to save a spill spit off. When I took Code's school I had deep serious conversation with him prior, that all I wanted to learn was how bikes felt when over doing loose traction on tarmac to see if THE Gravel travel applied, to find it does in spades, so much that tarmac break loose is fun load relieving refreshment, as tires grip back about instantly when loads cut, not so on THE Gravel or the Grass. He almost lost his head instructor Jason + half the others keeping his word with me but not telling instructors what I was there for. Kieth Code is one of the toughest most will full honest man i've ever meet. One of my worse crashes soon followed but was only because I'd slowed up waiting for instructor who put the x's on the apexes and was about to follow me into a double X chicane I'd go in so fast it became a one skip out apex to me in- between his"far flung" X's so when he flashed pass me very angry, [Code had sent him out one-on-one- to show me why he put his stupid X's where he did] so sitting bolt upright covering brakes I put attention on Jason instead of bike and it wheelied on snicking 4th at 14000 rpm 120 mph to land on stopped tire to low side then hi side off my L foot Onto My Head. It killed off a big bad part of my faulty riding static.
That is same thing I watched happen to 150-200 hp bikes trying to out gun Ms Peel who leaped ahead not up to sky before entering turns first. We talking redline+ in 2nd to do this of course. How many of you know the difference between pilot error and bike faults? I do or would not be doing up Ms Peel to have a public shoot out by big magazine someday. MY error in this case was lack of experience on the faults of moderns and putting attention off bike and road way so forgetting to release front brake before surprise wheelie. Actually I routinely left Hyabrusa's behind on my SV650, but shoot they'd start it not me, we stop for intersection and I'd creep past them to head on home then they'd decide that was the way they were going so I'd hear em make em howl behind me, so I'd nail it to sail the immediate turn onto new hiway and keep on it though the next few turns to be like 3/4 mile ahead by the straight, then would slow way down to see them zooming up to a 100 yd or so then the next turn would appear and I'd nail it this way and that, then slow way down to see them 1/2+ mile behind and wait and wait for their zooming up in mirror to repeat till It must of seemed like magic to see me disapear up so close and closing to reappear few seconds later as tiny spec. But no way on God's grey asphault does my SV stand a chance against dedicated 600's and riders with over 90 hp and less weight, Oh I can keep up in the *turns* with them, ha - only one turn, then they simply leave SV650 behind after that apex, no way to catch back up till they stopped. Pashaw all corner cripples wheelie limited sprinters to past Peel, up to the ton, when she got out gunned upright a number of times, ugh.
You will not see anything fast and dramatic on my factory Trixie, just slow speed stunts to get nerve enough to follow Wes feeling his oats. But I've lied to Wes when on Ms Peel, to send him home before I teased up some angry sports squids to really show them how pitiful their rides were compared to ancient obsolete rubber baby bugger with a rod up the rump.
This is life and death serious dangerous riding I'm talking about, any error or miss understanding or plain ego crap would kill me - so take my notes as you like but its not bluff as reality checks could be my last. I'm looking forward to some real fun flings to get world wide notice or go down in flames on Ms Peel. These are the events that became so routine I developed a side line hobby on joining with a squid squadron that turned their noses up and sneered at my dusty old clunker. "Can I tag along until ... Bored?" There are some extremes of reaction when I stop and get off and sit waiting for them, just like I sense tickling ole Carbono and others with my BS.
Do any of you know what happens when laid over on 900 Ninja into good tight sweeper say 70+ mph with peg folded up to pinch off foot and then some more till fairing chin scrapping and bike fighting back on counter steering tire vector/traction conflicts about to low side into a high side THEN NAIL WOT > I do, > phase 3 energy handling begins but moderns or vintage just can't take it like Peel loves to invite me into and beyond... Shoot do any of you really ride C'do's into hinged handling to know what that's all about in every way that can occur? When a deer or school bus leaps into Graveled path do any of your palms burn RED HOT like medieval Witch hunt truth test - on Any brake reflex pressure at all? Ugh I do.
To be blunt I found I can out ride race instructors and vacationing racers as they don't have the guts or the experience I've had to out ride full traction w/o sliding like lazy dazy flat trackers. That's what i really mean when I say I no longer do this on moderns or old C'dos. Its crazy experiences like Matt, [who I look up to and fear to face in real life], that have taught me more than I can write about and make sense.
My 1st bike P!! was told its best time was 10.49 1/4 mile that won its National event, though have not been able to find race records to back it up. On street tire I know it could beat under 11 sec as I had drag races with the 3 cylinder triple 2 strokes of the era and flat left them behind from first throttle hit to over the ton. They were mid 11 sec machines if IIRC. That
P!! gave me the skill to handle instant tire spin at will in parking lots, intersections and thick hyw traffic, but never got up the nerve to totally skew it to handle highway chicanes, because sat so low it couldn't lean, so this life time am learning all there is to know about turning a cycle fast and sharp as I can. Get that down and the road racing like TT IOM is just relaxing open freeway ease.
Any bike *but Ms Peel* gets wobblely wigglely when pressing to max to hold down or when fighting to lift back up and steering damper only increases the speed a tiny bit before the damper delays fork action enough to save a spill spit off. When I took Code's school I had deep serious conversation with him prior, that all I wanted to learn was how bikes felt when over doing loose traction on tarmac to see if THE Gravel travel applied, to find it does in spades, so much that tarmac break loose is fun load relieving refreshment, as tires grip back about instantly when loads cut, not so on THE Gravel or the Grass. He almost lost his head instructor Jason + half the others keeping his word with me but not telling instructors what I was there for. Kieth Code is one of the toughest most will full honest man i've ever meet. One of my worse crashes soon followed but was only because I'd slowed up waiting for instructor who put the x's on the apexes and was about to follow me into a double X chicane I'd go in so fast it became a one skip out apex to me in- between his"far flung" X's so when he flashed pass me very angry, [Code had sent him out one-on-one- to show me why he put his stupid X's where he did] so sitting bolt upright covering brakes I put attention on Jason instead of bike and it wheelied on snicking 4th at 14000 rpm 120 mph to land on stopped tire to low side then hi side off my L foot Onto My Head. It killed off a big bad part of my faulty riding static.
That is same thing I watched happen to 150-200 hp bikes trying to out gun Ms Peel who leaped ahead not up to sky before entering turns first. We talking redline+ in 2nd to do this of course. How many of you know the difference between pilot error and bike faults? I do or would not be doing up Ms Peel to have a public shoot out by big magazine someday. MY error in this case was lack of experience on the faults of moderns and putting attention off bike and road way so forgetting to release front brake before surprise wheelie. Actually I routinely left Hyabrusa's behind on my SV650, but shoot they'd start it not me, we stop for intersection and I'd creep past them to head on home then they'd decide that was the way they were going so I'd hear em make em howl behind me, so I'd nail it to sail the immediate turn onto new hiway and keep on it though the next few turns to be like 3/4 mile ahead by the straight, then would slow way down to see them zooming up to a 100 yd or so then the next turn would appear and I'd nail it this way and that, then slow way down to see them 1/2+ mile behind and wait and wait for their zooming up in mirror to repeat till It must of seemed like magic to see me disapear up so close and closing to reappear few seconds later as tiny spec. But no way on God's grey asphault does my SV stand a chance against dedicated 600's and riders with over 90 hp and less weight, Oh I can keep up in the *turns* with them, ha - only one turn, then they simply leave SV650 behind after that apex, no way to catch back up till they stopped. Pashaw all corner cripples wheelie limited sprinters to past Peel, up to the ton, when she got out gunned upright a number of times, ugh.
You will not see anything fast and dramatic on my factory Trixie, just slow speed stunts to get nerve enough to follow Wes feeling his oats. But I've lied to Wes when on Ms Peel, to send him home before I teased up some angry sports squids to really show them how pitiful their rides were compared to ancient obsolete rubber baby bugger with a rod up the rump.
This is life and death serious dangerous riding I'm talking about, any error or miss understanding or plain ego crap would kill me - so take my notes as you like but its not bluff as reality checks could be my last. I'm looking forward to some real fun flings to get world wide notice or go down in flames on Ms Peel. These are the events that became so routine I developed a side line hobby on joining with a squid squadron that turned their noses up and sneered at my dusty old clunker. "Can I tag along until ... Bored?" There are some extremes of reaction when I stop and get off and sit waiting for them, just like I sense tickling ole Carbono and others with my BS.
Do any of you know what happens when laid over on 900 Ninja into good tight sweeper say 70+ mph with peg folded up to pinch off foot and then some more till fairing chin scrapping and bike fighting back on counter steering tire vector/traction conflicts about to low side into a high side THEN NAIL WOT > I do, > phase 3 energy handling begins but moderns or vintage just can't take it like Peel loves to invite me into and beyond... Shoot do any of you really ride C'do's into hinged handling to know what that's all about in every way that can occur? When a deer or school bus leaps into Graveled path do any of your palms burn RED HOT like medieval Witch hunt truth test - on Any brake reflex pressure at all? Ugh I do.
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Steve there is only one thing to do now, peel the front off and get it on the back rim for yet another burnout ! Peashooter Peter.
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Trontonian, I know your kind a trouble maker like the Denis the Menace Eddie Haskle, I like that of course, so don't know if I can resist your hypnotic suggestions ...
Just teasing as I know I can after my Gravel Master and track lesions imprinted in multiple spinal and limb fractures.
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Off to ride Trixie on errands while nice out on miles of THE Gravel, so wish me luck and back eh. I have been fully suited up, on bikes to look out on it long and deep inside myself to decide its not a good day to die, tucked tail and took my cage instead ugh. How deep does riding risks touch you'all's life...
Just teasing as I know I can after my Gravel Master and track lesions imprinted in multiple spinal and limb fractures.
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Off to ride Trixie on errands while nice out on miles of THE Gravel, so wish me luck and back eh. I have been fully suited up, on bikes to look out on it long and deep inside myself to decide its not a good day to die, tucked tail and took my cage instead ugh. How deep does riding risks touch you'all's life...
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There is an old racers saying: "When the flag drops the bullshit stops" ..........which I think might mean a lot less posts from a certain person, if he actually ever entered a drag race!
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Well there ya go revealing your style dear Carbono, I only posted about a chickened out burn out fun attempt on Trixie and slow sliding stunt, everything else was just responding off point posts. My plan is to call a shoot out by major cycle rag to bring on the best they got for real life pecking order, so you can chuckle/sneer at me till then. Show us your evidence of cycle play and tires please to judge your experience to pay any attention too or not. Again you are long distance nothing to me, the real testers were in my face and flying into freaking rages in deadly public blinds or track, they were so nutzo serious shocked. Didn't help em a bit. i've a time slip from the old avatar wheelie on pre-Peel, only 11.85sec/97 mph in the 1000 ft strip, ugh. Didn't get to ride errands yet wife had a tree trimming task first.
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I have seen your posts concerning a supercharged race bike of some sort. This type of project tends to be very costly if its done half right, and will not be that reliable if you are using anything more than about 20% nitro fuel mix.
To put things into perspective a slightly modified ZZR 600 will run 9.49 using petrol, as well as being completely reliable, with good handling and braking.
To put things into perspective a slightly modified ZZR 600 will run 9.49 using petrol, as well as being completely reliable, with good handling and braking.
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Well you ain't up to speed on Ms Peel's features then and don't understand how limited fatso tire bikes are too even an under powered triple linked Commando. Few more small details then new engine comes home to finish the fringes it needs to tolerate the heat. Should be able to do easy rolling burn outs w/o any brake like my P!!, ugh too easy.
OH yeah, no nitromethane or NOS for Peel, No Sir Ree Bob, she'll burn water and make steam pressure instead. But she could run that stuff for even more steam and nitrogen torque pressure someday. Just $4000 short of tranny to take it yet.
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How the rather silly micky mouse blower set up pictured in your earlier posts is likely to be able to provide you with 150bhp at the rear wheel, I find very difficult to work out?
As to your Norton being able to do anything better than a 20 year old Jap 600, again its hard to figure out in what way the old Norton would be superior?
As to your Norton being able to do anything better than a 20 year old Jap 600, again its hard to figure out in what way the old Norton would be superior?
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Carbonfibre said:
one could only hope!
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hobot said:
I think many people would be interested as to why exactly you are ruining a ridable bike with ridiculous bolt on parts, and alterations likely to make it unridable? Perhaps you could explain to everyone, without recourse to gibberish?
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What DOES carbon fibre ride ? :roll:
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Lol.................those who think that a worn out old Norton is faster in the turns than a current Ducati are much more into fantasy than me!
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Interestingly the bullshitters on here who are claiming all sorts of amazing feats related to old push rod twins being superior to modern 200BHP sports bikes, never seem to mention what happens when you try to ride an old Brit bike hard, the fixed type footrest digs into the road, and the rear wheel comes off the ground................wonder what the reason for that might be?
Carbonfibre said:
You seem to miss a certain important point here, sure, say Rossi for instance on a new sports bike would leave any Norton well and truly in its dust, I doubt anyone would argue that. In the real world there are very few Rossis and those that like to think they are could more than likely ride a smaller bike faster. The same thing happened with MX, who can keep a CR/KX 500 on the pipe around a track?? People were winning world GP races on 250s that had been bored out to meet the minimum capacity requirements of the class. Power is definitely a significant part of it, just at some point more power will make most people slower unless its a straight line
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Its really pretty surprising that anyone on here takes the gibberish posted by a certain person seriously! Old Brit twins are just fine, but they are never going to beat a modern Jap four in a drag race, or handle better than a Ducati. Believing anything else, is a bit like thinking the ridiculous crap spewed out by our various governments is actually true!
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