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E85 fuel

Discussion in 'Norton Motorcycles (Modern)' started by Voodooo, Jan 13, 2019.

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  1. Voodooo

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  2. Voodooo

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    I currently run 100 octane unleaded race fuel in my bikes.
    To many of you are stuck on rumors.
     
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  3. Voodooo

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    The injectors in my car are stock oem. They are stainless steel. As are many modern injectors.

    I’m gonna ask everyone this
    What the fuck does the government subsidizes have to do with running fuel in my bike to make more god damn hp.
    Jesus Christ I wish I never posted this.

    You people are so far off track I don’t get it.
    All I wanted to know is if anyone knows of the ecu tuning. All I hear is a bunch of cry babie wanna be farmers bitching about government and corn.
    I live in a rural area. I have plenty of e85 available. If I can make this work so be it!
    It’s a plus!
    More power
    Cooler temps
    Cleaner for the engine
    Cleaner for the environment
    Cheaper to fill up.
    When I decide to store the bike I’ll run it near empty and add 93 back to the system.
    I run e85 in my F150 along with 93 and it’s factory flex fuel. All you do is put what ever unleaded or E what ever in it and go. It’s that easy.
     
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  4. Voodooo

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    I know this isn’t a Norton but it’s the same as what I’m running in my car. Except now I’m running long tube headers and making more hp.

     
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  5. SgtUSAF80

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    Voodoo,

    As someone else pointed out, you started a great thread that resulted in some very "impassioned" responses. You are to be commended for searching out ways to achieve more power, more efficiently! With some modifications, as you mentioned, motorcycles could probably run on E85. It is just that, right now, no motorcycles have been manufactured that can run on E85. It is not a "poor fuel", it just reacts poorly with "plastic" fuel tanks and rubber fuel lines.
     
  6. bill

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    i have no idea if the stock injectors are capable of the delivery rate for E85 or if the ECM can be tuned to use it either but IMHO if it was not designed to use it i would steer clear of if it till you know more about the injectors rate and ECM info. as far as the government part if it was not for our tax dollars subsidizing the ethanol industry you would be SOL and stuck with methanol at a much higher price.

    PS i do get what you are saying as to the benefits.

     
  7. gchoppin

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    Sometimes it's more fun to just shut up and read............Have to say l LOL'd more than once.
     
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    Thanks and I agree on the plastic.
    But as I stated, we have options.
     
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    Fantastic video!

    Those gains would make someone pleased who’d just spent a chunk of cash on some tuning goodies.

    To get those gains just by changing the fuel is very interesting.
     
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    Voodoo keep posting your ideas . You are ahead of the curve on this for sure. I see the E85 pumps around here too. It is a great idea you have , and if we had the ability to tune for E85 a slam dunk performance upgrade ! The ability to switch back and forth when you want to is a big plus.
     
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    I'm not blind to the subject. I started my reply by stating I'm veering off subject and didn't dispute you at all. You're correct. E85 has a lower flashpoint and is a more volatile fuel creating a higher combustion. To get back on subject.
     
  14. Eljahara

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    So true!
    I filled up my car just as the tanker was leaving the petrol station, a few miles down the road the car started misfiring, surging forward etc and I narrowly avoided a serious crash. Had the car towed to the dealer as it was only 5 months old and when I went to collect I was shown a container of the contents of my fuel tank - about 60% water!
    Needless to say, petrol supplier paid for work on car - and informed me that it was a frequent occurrence.....
    John
     
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  15. gchoppin

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    Are buying the 100 octane fuel at a racetrack?
     
  16. robs ss

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    I will never put fuel containing ethanol in any of my engines if I have a choice.
    Ethanol, unlike petrol ("gas" for our US friends), absorbs moisture - so can cause corrosion of engine parts (injector components for example)
    Why would you voluntarily put a fuel contains water in your tank?
    So, world peace and starvation of the masses aside, I think it's a no-brainer to avoid it - if you can.
    I run the highest octane readily available here - 98%
    Cheers
    Rob
     
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    I buy Sunoco 260 GT by the 55 gallon drum
     
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    Again you’re being blinded by what you don’t know.
    So, gasoline doesn’t go bad? You’re telling me it stays good forever? Never causes system issues?
    Are the injectors on our bike stainless or steel? Do you know?
    Do you know the benefits of e85 over gasoline?
    Stop making this into a world peace and hunger issue. I’m sick of hearing it already. You naysayers are Debbie downers.
    What if I proven it provided to be the better fuel?
    Let’s say it was approved by a motorcycle manufacturer or proven to be safe?
    Then what?

    I’m not asking if one should drink the shit.
     
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  19. robs ss

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    hoo-boy! Slow down a bit there - Is this thread just an excuse to get all your anger out?
    It appears you're always right - wish I had that skill.
    Seems like that to me - I'm out...
     
  20. Voodooo

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    The deal is this.
    All this has becone is a bitch fest from many people that mention, farmers, government, world hunger.
    You yourself and a few others provided nothing but complaints on why it can’t or won’t work. It’s lame.
    Am I right?
    I didn’t claim to be right.
    I even provided some information showing it’s possible and that it even works.
    If you read the thread from the beginning you’ll see it’s a question. Instead it’s turned into everything else.
    All you said was you’ll never do it, how bad you think it is blah blah.
    Fine don’t do it. That’s ok. I’m not asking you to do it.
    I asked if it was ever done. Obviously the answer is no.
     
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