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could be a 500 or 750, i actually got (didn't have much choice at the time) the (KH?)500 after the 74 norton, gas mileage was horrible and ate spark plugs for lunch,

nothing on the bottom end but bog sounds that at some point suddenly when it hits the powerband, changes to a brief neck snapping hang on surge of power

MikeM said:
Danno said:
Not a Commando, but a Featherbed...


different engine commando frame


Dude who inherited it from a late friend called it a " Norton Manx" chassis, "Kawaton"
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Do I see a Kawasaki Triple?
I had one of those.
That would be a crazy combination.
That motor in a good frame would be a great combination.
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84ok said:
could be a 500 or 750, i actually got (didn't have much choice at the time) the (KH?)500 after the 74 norton, gas mileage was horrible and ate spark plugs for lunch,

nothing on the bottom end but bog sounds that at some point suddenly when it hits the powerband, changes to a brief neck snapping hang on surge of power

MikeM said:
Danno said:
Not a Commando, but a Featherbed...


different engine commando frame


Dude who inherited it from a late friend called it a " Norton Manx" chassis, "Kawaton"
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Do I see a Kawasaki Triple?
I had one of those.
That would be a crazy combination.
That motor in a good frame would be a great combination.
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It looks like a 500. No power til about 5000 or so and then it comes on!!

different engine commando frame
 
hmmmm
http://www.bootstriples.com/3.html
One of the biggest problems today, with Kawasaki Triples, is they were designed for 98-102 Leaded Fuel.

Modern 91 Unleaded Fuel can create a hole (from detonation due to incorrect octane) in the piston dome in as little as 2-3 miles of 70-80 mph freeway riding, on a stock tuned Kawasaki Triple.

I can't emphasize more, the need to use a 100+ octane fuel. It doesn't need to be leaded like the old days, but it needs to be a quality race gas of that octane or better.
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http://astraone.com/kawasaki-h2/kawasak ... 1-500-750/

http://thekneeslider.com/two-allen-mill ... -h1-850-5/
 
84ok said:
hmmmm
http://www.bootstriples.com/3.html
One of the biggest problems today, with Kawasaki Triples, is they were designed for 98-102 Leaded Fuel.

Modern 91 Unleaded Fuel can create a hole (from detonation due to incorrect octane) in the piston dome in as little as 2-3 miles of 70-80 mph freeway riding, on a stock tuned Kawasaki Triple.

I can't emphasize more, the need to use a 100+ octane fuel. It doesn't need to be leaded like the old days, but it needs to be a quality race gas of that octane or better.
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http://astraone.com/kawasaki-h2/kawasak ... 1-500-750/

http://thekneeslider.com/two-allen-mill ... -h1-850-5/
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Takes a "special" person to ride and own one of those. I had it in the day. It was a daily rider. Smoked like mad and went like hell. I actually looked at one last year to have as a second bike. Took a ride on it an wondered what I was thinking. It was a special experience. Damn, that thing was kick ass!!
 
Danno said:
Don't know about the rear section, but the front of that "BSA" chassis has twin downtubes. More Commando than Beezer.
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This one? Looks like a BSA frame to me. They have twin downtubes.

different engine commando frame
 
what about the isolastics on it? it's the first and only non norton frame isolastics (the info sez) setup i've seen?

does isolastics mean commando swingarm?
 
84ok said:
what about the isolastics on it? it's the first and only non norton frame isolastics (the info sez) setup i've seen?

does isolastics mean commando swingarm?
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Someone says that bike has Isolastic mounting. The front mounting lugs don't look like standard BSA. The footrests are unusually mounted too.

More than that I do not know.
 
i'm also quite surprised to read this (the bottom) figuring the kaw engine isn't (assuming can't be?) worth much, tho also have no idea what j.a.p. engines go for, which i will certainly be looking into

acotrel said:
Danno said:
Not a Commando, but a Featherbed...


different engine commando frame


Dude who inherited it from a late friend called it a " Norton Manx" chassis, "Kawaton"
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I wonder about the mentality of some people - to me that bike looks like DEATH !
A JAWA speedway engine fitted to that bike with an AMC box would be much better and much CHEAPER !
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Triton Thrasher said:
Danno said:
Don't know about the rear section, but the front of that "BSA" chassis has twin downtubes. More Commando than Beezer.
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This one? Looks like a BSA frame to me. They have twin downtubes.

different engine commando frame
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I think this would be an excellent bike. The weight distribution would make it safe and predictable in corners, and the frame would make it feel tight, so you could really fang it. I once built a Tribsa with a 650 Triumph engine and gear box in a gold flash frame. It had 26 degree rake and I used 63 model 650 Triumph fork yokes. It was much better to ride than the Triton I raced immediately after selling it. The bike in the photo has standard BSA fork yokes which can make the bike unstable at speed.
 
hmmm, had no idea a gold flash frame could work so well,

that bsa fork yokes deal apply only in racing situations? did the bsa yokes get better at some point?
acotrel said:
I think this would be an excellent bike. The weight distribution would make it safe and predictable in corners, and the frame would make it feel tight, so you could really fang it. I once built a Tribsa with a 650 Triumph engine and gear box in a gold flash frame. It had 26 degree rake and I used 63 model 650 Triumph fork yokes. It was much better to ride than the Triton I raced immediately after selling it. The bike in the photo has standard BSA fork yokes which can make the bike unstable at speed.
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different engine commando frame
 
A little OT, but still interesting. Reg Pridmore tried the Kawi triple in Manx frame back in the day, but it didn't work out too well.

different engine commando frame


He butchered a '59 Manx frame pretty badly to fit the Kawi. The story ends well, though. I bought it as a basket case, without the Kawi engine, but with the original 500 Manx engine in a box. I restored the frame, mostly rebuilt the engine, and bought some new bits, but never got the rest of the job done. I sold it to one of the listers here, who did a proper job of restoring it.

Ken
 
Now that visibly IS a manx frame, not a road bike frame described as one like before.
"lack of ground clearance" is hardly the frames fault though, look at all that pipery under there !

Great pic BTW, thanks for finding that.
Cheers.
 
Please stop. I now have a little bit of sick in my mouth after that last one. :D
Ta.
 
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