My brother works on Vincents all the time, in his retirement. The other day, he said 'if there is a wrong way to do anything, they have done it on a Vincent'. There was guy in Melbourne in the 60s who was always bullshitting on about how good Vincents are. He tried to road race one, and after he had slid up the road on his back at 100 MPH in front of a big crowd, he fitted a sidecar to it and went racing safely. I find that photo of Surtees on the Vincent reassuring. It lets me know that he was actually human. 'Some things are so bad that they are good' ?