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The vibe's don't scare me or my brother but it sure makes for an uncomfortable high speed long distance rider. me and my brother did a bit of drag racing ( him with an H2) along me doing a small bit of road racing. neither one of us wanted anything to do with an H2 for high speed road work. as stated on wiki it was noted to have a hidden hing in its mediocre frame along with the hand numbing vibration we experienced. again why did Kawasaki drop it from its lineup if it was the end all bike in the 750 market???? why did suzuki abandon its ding pop line up and make the change to an ALL 4 stroke line and Yamaha did the same in the US???

J.A.W. said:
a wee one for Bill [wont frighten him-or his brother- with scary vibes] to buy...[& Bill ,Wiki as a reference..credibilty?]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_IIj3gr ... re=related
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BTW the next stage of triple 2smokes was their late 70's GT750 aka Water Buffalo.
Peel uses their rear hubs/19mm axle. Way out of Cdo context any way looked at but for inline tires.

Commando in Context.
 
Yeah Hobot, those Suzuki GT 750s were fat porkers [smooth though, being even firing 2T triples], note that in the Dec`72 Cycle Superbike showdown in which Norton entered a pseudo-Combat, neither Suzuki, Yamaha,BMW,Laverda, or Moto-Guzzi were prepared to enter their 750s in the mix, knowing they wouldn`t cut it.
Those "STRONG HINTS" were published in the AMERICAN Cycle World magazine, the world largest circulation mag, & having seen that BMW have both increased sales this year, & have produced the most powerful 4T superbike [now winning WSBK races] currently on sale, this increases the probability significantly, anyone care to put a quid on it?
I have done many hi-speed miles on H2s -without vibration as an issue- as coming from Triumphs, Kaw triples are comparitively smooth..., & my brother borrowed one of mine to go on tour with his Triumph riding mates when his Trident developed oil pressure problems, he enjoyed showing off,doing burn-outs, wheelstands, even towed one of his broken down mates several hundred miles, then only bitched about the fuel economy [wanker], not about vibration...
Honda did produce a snowmobile, back in the day, but being 4T devotees [forced to go 2T in MX & GP until they could get the rules changed to handicap, then ban 2Ts] & knew a 4T would not cut it against the 2T snowcraft & dropped it..
 
I have done many hi-speed miles on H2s -without vibration as an issue

What was it that broke the downtubes on the LC H2 ?
 
Well Bill, if you`re gonna cite Wiki as a credible source...did you check that Castrol 6hour [strictly showroom production] race report? H2 : Fastest lap, indeed fast enough to win the race, inspite of that thirst, now if it did not have any road holding, & the riders could not hang on to the bars at speed , well Bill, was Superman riding it? or is it actually that your opinions are not supported by the facts, have a look at the thread on the 'other classic motocycles' forum here marked 'Simultaneous torque hit wheelspin/wheelie' for more evidence that demolishes your prejudices..
& Concours, if your piston port 2T are tuned by the soggy bottom boys, then they likely need re-jetting to get`em zinging from the get go...have another look at those dyno charts in that cited Cycle Superbike show-down..
 
Loaded for bear, Matt, & how is the zinging in your head?
You know that Kaw triples are smoother than most contemporary British bikes, even mal-adjusted Commandos -like your bent one - eh, old boy..
In fact, after one wheelstand too many, it did get suspiciously smoother - what with the mill in virtual isolastic suspension - but it kinda spoilt the steering accuracy.
 
When riding spiritedly, it is sensible to have a engine crash protection bar, wouldn`t you say Matt ?[ if it isn`t too unsightly], & if you can stretch your legs while on a ride, all the better.
 
Funny , it could knock a 4 x 4 down , and it was still straight .
Bonne could do wheelstands every day with no probs ,

And never had a rod out the side or a bearing go .

Deal With RD 350s ? Change into top .
 
If it was straight Matt , then why did it steer funny hands off, front tyre to blame was it?
Your old pre-unit Bonnie was a good-un but it wouldn`t keep up with an RZ 350..
 
J.A.W. said:
Yeah Hobot, those Suzuki GT 750s were fat porkers [smooth though, being even firing 2T triples], note that in the Dec`72 Cycle Superbike showdown in which Norton entered a pseudo-Combat, neither Suzuki, Yamaha,BMW,Laverda, or Moto-Guzzi were prepared to enter their 750s in the mix, knowing they wouldn`t cut it.
Those "STRONG HINTS" were published in the AMERICAN Cycle World magazine, the world largest circulation mag, & having seen that BMW have both increased sales this year, & have produced the most powerful 4T superbike [now winning WSBK races] currently on sale, this increases the probability significantly, anyone care to put a quid on it?
I have done many hi-speed miles on H2s -without vibration as an issue- as coming from Triumphs, Kaw triples are comparitively smooth..., & my brother borrowed one of mine to go on tour with his Triumph riding mates when his Trident developed oil pressure problems, he enjoyed showing off,doing burn-outs, wheelstands, even towed one of his broken down mates several hundred miles, then only bitched about the fuel economy [wanker], not about vibration...
Honda did produce a snowmobile, back in the day, but being 4T devotees [forced to go 2T in MX & GP until they could get the rules changed to handicap, then ban 2Ts] & knew a 4T would not cut it against the 2T snowcraft & dropped it..
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Do tell.... "Honda did produce a snowmobile, back in the day" I've been riding sleds non-stop since 1969, tuned a couple race sleds, for a couple decades had the latest, greatest and fastest sleds available, stayed current. I must have missed the Honda... never even seen one in a museum. Was that an AU only marketed item? What year? Pics/stories please.....

I remember the Suzuki sleds, Kawasaki BOUGHT Sno-Jet and improved on that line-up, only lasted a few years, (entire sled market tanked) Yamaha has been a major player since the mid 60's,first with oil injection. We had a '69 292.
 
I'm guessing that it will be OK to wander off topic a bit in this thread...

I have a vivid memory of riding with a guy about 1980 who had a Suzuki triple that was an air-cooled enduro. I will be danged if I can find any information to suggest it actually existed. Am I losing it or just not searching in the right places?

FWIW the memory includes him blowing me away off the line and leaving me in a cloud of blue smoke. To further destroy my credibility, the memory also has the detail that it looked just like my '72 TS250 but with three cylinders instead of one, trial tires and all.

Well?

Russ
 
Ugh Russ, what a let down eh, wonder which bike is still around to keep going.
 
Well spotted Hobot, thats the [li`l Honda] snow-jigger, wonder how many liability claims that thing caused, likely some, but not as many as Honda`s awful trike of the period..
Anyone recall the Yankee Z 500 2T twin enduro? maybe Russ saw one of them?
& Matt, your poor ol` pre-unit Bonnie did wheelstands under the whip/duress, not 'cause it was eager/insisting about it..
Concours, I think you`ll find that Suzuki built the mills for Arctic Cat,including a mean 170hp 2T triple.
 
Matt, have another look at the Castol 6hr - http://the6hour.com.au/content/history1972.html
Note: a Bonnie won in`70, covered 312 laps,& the RD 350 that won the 500 class in `74 did 333 laps.
Show me a test of a showroom stock [not a British "production racing"] Bonnie that will do 125mph/200kmh - as a good Commando, H1 or RZ 350 will do.
 
Biff Whiffle , The Canyon Racer ! :shock: :?

Ring Ding One .

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Site ror Ring ding alings .

http://www.rd350lc.net/page2PRESS.htm

Note 186 = 115 . 6 mph , about what a olde 56 T110 would do . Id say theres a remote possibility PZ2 Metzlers & Perrilis might have been in the eqution .

As at the Cycle Store why only the other day ( T800 & T 675 ) " Id like one of those in one of those " - " BUT THAT ONES FASTER " - " Not with three people on it " ! . ( he had to go away & think about that ) .

Looking at a R III , the brackets are stamped out and tacked on , like one of those horrible japanses things . Not Hand Made . Like a REAL Motorcycle . ANY fing Bonneville would do 115 . Even the nasty Meridan ones .

With a 16 yr old 2 stone shela on it , the little nipper might get of the line smartly . I think you fail to realise , most people dont consider all traffic lights as being christmass trees , or motoprcycles TOYS .

If you like the cheap disposable ones , fine . Others have more mature tastes . The horrifying thing reading the 6 Hour Chronical , is the casualty statitics in the gung ho balls ut anything to win P.R. era .

Wots a little nipper do in the I.o.M. , Laptime wise then . And what tyres was it on , and what weight was the rider . Thankyou .

P.S. Syd Visious was not only a great virtuouso singer , he was a model of progressive and refined culture . :? :roll: :mrgreen:
 
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