Champion N3 N7 and Mick Hemmings

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Champion N3 N7 and Mick Hemmings
I've read a 1978 article in Motor Cycle Mechanics where Mick Hemmings says that N3 are better than N7Y for Commando road use but does not say why.
I've got both here for a comparison and the tip on the N7Y is more projected but surely the heat range must be different as well. Any facts as to why Mick would recommend them or is this now not the case 42 years on.
 
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N is 14mm
Y is projected
and the number is the heat range - the lower the number, the colder the plug.

The factory manual recommends the N7Y, having moved from the N6Y recommendation with the earlier engine.


But dropping down to an N3 non-projected plug is a pretty big difference!

I’d also be curious to know what the logic is!!!
 
Champion N3 N7 and Mick Hemmings


Here's the paragraph where it was stated.

I remember in his engine rebuild video he mentions that he doesn't favour the projected tip plugs but I can't recall if any numbers are mentioned.
 
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Here's the paragraph where it was stated.

I remember in his engine rebuild video he mentions that he doesn't favour the projected tip plugs but I can't recall if any numbers are mentioned.

Wonder if that explains why I used N57R plugs for racing way back then, until Champion told me to use N4Gs :rolleyes:
 
Just to add useless information, I note that N3 are in my T150v and N4 in my Enfield Interceptor 750.
 
I use the NGK BPR7ES (resistor plug version in the recommended heat range) I always like to know why someone of noteworthy reputation suggests some different choice. If I didn't know why, I would just stick to the spec'd plugs, and if I didn't need to know why, I would probably be the owner of a honda.
 
FWIW, a projected nose plug is generally "better" for two reasons - the projected nose is further into the combustion chamber and therefore can provide a better ignition of the mixture. Also, it has a wider heat range than a standard plug - it runs "hotter" than a standard plug at low speed/load, which reduces fouling and cooler than a standard plug at high load because the projected portion is further out into the incoming air stream. At higher RPM that has a major cooling effect on the plug and, therefore, the combustion chamber/related parts.

OF course, depending on combustion chamber design/piston clearance, a projected nose plug may not fit. For racing purposes, the wider heat range of a projected nose plug is not generally an advantage since the engine load/combustion chamber temps is fairly constant. A projected nose MIGHT be or might not be - depending again on combustion chamber design.

When we built performance engines, on the dyno a PN plug would produce more HP from a Mopar 426 Hemi every time over a standard plug of the appropriate heat range regardless of whether it was a 6000 RPM street engine or a 8500RPM competition engine. We thought 8500 RPM was pretty hot stuff a few years ago but those same SS/AH 426 Hemi's spin 9800+ RPM today!
 
If the ignition system was designed around a N7Y plug, which is a projected nose type, surely moving to a recessed plug means that you will need to revisit the timing by a couple of degrees?

Mick’s recommendation of a colder plug makes sense in that the recessed plug is further away from airflow and cooling effect. Plus as Les has pointed out, the N3 Champion seems to cover a staggering range of equivalent NGKs


I would expect it becomes even more critical to have carb jetting and tuning as well as ignition timing absolutely spot on accurate.

...probably easy for Mick and a rolling road, but maybe not as easy for us mere mortals!
 
Cooler plugs help prevent detonation. Can't comment on using N3s specifically. The octane level of local gas may also be a factor in the recommendation of N3s
 
If you’re looking at a NGK plug be sure to get the B7ES and NOT the B7ES-11. The -11 has a much larger gap. DAMHIK.
 
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