Café Commando build thread

Jeandr

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This is my "before" picture... The oil tank will be in the modified top tube. Depending on the seat, I will shorten the rear loop.

Café Commando build thread


This is a picture with the tank I will use after it has been thouroughly modified, first to make it immune from ethanol, better sealing flush gas cap, better petcocks.t

Café Commando build thread


Fast mock up with the rear wheel. I laced it to see if Bucchanan's had done right and just as expected, they did. They are the best out there when it comes to weird wheel configurations. The rear hub is from a Yamaha DT250 and that rim is a 21", the front one will also be 21". Tires willbe Avon AM26 Roadriders in a 90 X 90 size. The rear shocks are Fournales.

Café Commando build thread


I will update with new pictures as I make progress.

Jean
 
Looking good so far. Now I know the reason for the parts liquidation. It will be interesting to see what 21's look like front and rear. I went with a pair of 17 x 3.50 on my project. Should be complete opposites.
 
21"??? what's the matter, can't go fast enough with just sprockets?

Way to go, I'll be watching in earnest!
 
prmurat said:
Fournales??? Jean I hope you have a good chiropractor !!!
Philippe
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I am hoping they will put my back in shape :wink:

Jean
 
grandpaul said:
What's with the hole chopped in the side of the swingarm?
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Man you guys look at everything :roll: It is obviously a lightening hole my Commando did all by itself to rectify the fore and aft roll axis :lol:

Jean
 
Looking good Jean,
Looking at your previous work, I'm sure it will be a stunner when it's finished :)

Webby
 
Keep up the good work . Us Ontario Norton Owners are setting up a cafe commando display of 8 cafes this wknd. at the Motorcycle Supershow (now world's largest) at the Internatonal Centre in Toronto. Hop on a plane and fly in should you need more ideas for the build. peter
 
Jeandr said:
Man you guys look at everything. It is obviously a lightening hole my Commando did all by itself to rectify the fore and aft roll axis
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It's a lot cleaner than hobot's mothods, that's for sure. But, as he might be known to say, "the pre-slide release to grip overage function will noticeably ratchet the differential in the parallel force multilpier range just before beauty is enhanced in the upward level".
 
Yes sir Paul you are getting my plans and methods down : )
Its refreshing and intriguing to see how Jean does OIF and rides on 21" wheels.
Thank goodness for Harleys to keep a fresh supply of 21" tires available.
Never heard of that brand shock, why the spinal impact comments? I've yet to buy Ms Peel shocks so up in the air - seeking more travel range than usual shocks.

Where will oil go in, where will vapor pressure go out, what happens to oil flow if going down steep slope slowly or slowing form good speed over some time/distance, and what about draining and filtering?
 
grandpaul said:
Jeandr said:
Man you guys look at everything. It is obviously a lightening hole my Commando did all by itself to rectify the fore and aft roll axis
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It's a lot cleaner than hobot's mothods, that's for sure. But, as he might be known to say, "the pre-slide release to grip overage function will noticeably ratchet the differential in the parallel force multilpier range just before beauty is enhanced in the upward level".
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:lol: do you also speak Klignon :?:

Jean
 
:lol: do you also speak Klignon :?:

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How about Jive? Barbara Bilingsly did.
 
hobot said:
Yes sir Paul you are getting my plans and methods down : )
Its refreshing and intriguing to see how Jean does OIF and rides on 21" wheels.
Thank goodness for Harleys to keep a fresh supply of 21" tires available.
Never heard of that brand shock, why the spinal impact comments? I've yet to buy Ms Peel shocks so up in the air - seeking more travel range than usual shocks.

Where will oil go in, where will vapor pressure go out, what happens to oil flow if going down steep slope slowly or slowing form good speed over some time/distance, and what about draining and filtering?
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A picture is worth a thousand words

Café Commando build thread


I will add baffles inside the tank to keep the oil surging forwards when braking. The bottom of the tube where the yellow hash lines are will be cut away and a box section in the shape of the hash lines will be welded in. This will increase the volume of the tank leaving enough room for crankcase venting. The oil filter will be in its usual location unless I fing a better place or it fouls the rear links.

Phillipe thinks the Fournales shocks are too harsh, but they are air shock (no springs) so they must be adjusted to machine and rider weight with a suitable shock pump.

I think many cruisers also use 21" wheels

Jean
 
Neat-O Jean, fascinating the ways to skin OIF cat on Cdo's. It just seems so obvious a use of wasted space and oil tank elimination. Plus surface area to cool.
I don't yet see/understand how oil from filter re-enters OIF. I also think I see an isssue of the drain not being very much lower than the spine tank so pensive how nose down you can get and still flow oil to pump. I would fall asleep imagining I was an oil drop flowing through Peel, then awoke with a startle and loss of sleep when I got to a long steep downhill and realized my drain vent would be un covered too often and long at a time. I had to add a drain up by the stem to get rest again.

One issue with I considered with a boxed in area was losing the room to route
cables and wires to bars and headlight. Really fancy customs run the wires in tubes placed in frame or gas tank. I'm not that fancy to try to go that route.

Will ya retain the bullet holed look in tank and swing arm : )
I've seen one custom they made the bullet holes go all the way through by tubes welded in for the strange effect.
 
This will be a great thread to follow, thanks Jean. wish I had your means to accomplish cafe bikes.
 
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