British Motorcycle Fasteners

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Most probably know about the fastener database at stainlessbits.com. The pages are still there but the site is otherwise defunct. With the owner's permission, I extracted his data and setup an actual public database on my website. Anyone can search the database and registered users can edit the database. It is 100% free and there are no ads. There is coverage of Triumph, BSA, Norton, Matchless, AJS and others can be supported. See: http://www.gregmarsh.com/MC/FastenersList.aspx
 
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Most probably know about the fastener database at stainlessbits.com. The pages are still there but the site is otherwise defunct. With the owner's permission, I extracted his data and setup an actual public database on my website. Anyone can search the database and registered users can edit the database. It is 100% free and there are no ads. There is coverage of Triumph, BSA, Norton, Matchless, AJS and others can be supported. See: http://www.gregmarsh.com/MC/FastenersList.aspx
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Besides the Fasteners Database, I'm bringing a Parts Database online. So far, there are 39 manuals worth of parts info available. Right now the value is looking up a part by number and seeing what bikes it's for. I'll be adding the ability to look through the exploded diagrams as I have time. Like the Fasteners Database, you can view as a guest or you can make an account and edit - there is no cost and there are no ads. If you already have an account for the Fasteners Database, it will work for the Parts Database. I'm also working to combine info between the two databases so all available info is available in each query. See: http://www.gregmarsh.com/MC/PartsList.aspx
 
A good deed, Greg. Thanks for making all that data available.

Ken
 
That's great news, and excellent work.
However, there is one major problem with the list: cross headed fasteners.
These are invariably listed as "Phillips".
The British motor cycle industry did not use Phillips fasteners; it used Pozidriv.
Please do NOT use a Phillips screwdriver with a Pozidriv fastener, otherwise you'll wreck it in short order.
To the untrained eye, these fasteners look similar, but are very different.
See https://mechanics.stackexchange.com...use-a-pozidriv-screwdriver-on-a-phillips-head
 
bucksfizz said:
That's great news, and excellent work.
However, there is one major problem with the list: cross headed fasteners.
These are invariably listed as "Phillips".
The British motor cycle industry did not use Phillips fasteners; it used Pozidriv.
Please do NOT use a Phillips screwdriver with a Pozidriv fastener, otherwise you'll wreck it in short order.
To the untrained eye, these fasteners look similar, but are very different.
See https://mechanics.stackexchange.com...use-a-pozidriv-screwdriver-on-a-phillips-head
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Agreed. Phillips was invented to slip out of the screw in a production environment whereas Posidriv is designed to not slip out.

The fasteners data originally came from stainlessbits and is slowly being updated by me and others. Please create an account and fix what you know is wrong! I suppose I could change every Phillips reference to Posidrive but I don't know if all the manufacturers used Posidrive exclusively - if you're sure that they did, let me know and I'll make the changes.

The parts data is typed from the manuals by a typist with absolutely no knowledge of motorcycles - the data matches the manuals (with a typo here and there I'm sure). The manual "numbers" will be fixed as I have time - right now they are the file names I gave the typist. There are some rows where she didn't know how to get Excel to accept what she typed so she put in a note - that's being fixed as well. As you might guess, I'm well over $1500 into this and she has a lot more manuals to type!
 
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Please create an account and fix what you know is wrong! I suppose I could change every Phillips reference to Posidrive but I don't know if all the manufacturers used Posidrive exclusively - if you're sure that they did, let me know and I'll make the changes.
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I am quite happy to make a contribution to this valuable source of information, and I'll set up an account.
If you have the ability to do a global change from Phillips to Pozidriv (no 'e' at the end), then I am 99.9% sure that the end result will be accurate.
I have yet to encounter an original Phillips fastener on a British bike.
If anyone knows different, then please shout.
 
bucksfizz said:
I am quite happy to make a contribution to this valuable source of information, and I'll set up an account.
If you have the ability to do a global change from Phillips to Pozidriv (no 'e' at the end), then I am 99.9% sure that the end result will be accurate.
I have yet to encounter an original Phillips fastener on a British bike.
If anyone knows different, then please shout.
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I did it last night for almost all. Anyone searching for Phillips or Posidriv will find them now with a note.
 
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marshg246 said:
Most probably know about the fastener database at stainlessbits.com. The pages are still there but the site is otherwise defunct. With the owner's permission, I extracted his data and setup an actual public database on my website. Anyone can search the database and registered users can edit the database. It is 100% free and there are no ads. There is coverage of Triumph, BSA, Norton, Matchless, AJS and others can be supported. See: http://www.gregmarsh.com/MC/FastenersList.aspx
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Thank you so much for preserving that Greg. That is a database that I have looked to again and again.
 
Madnorton said:
Don't take the list for gospel, two mistakes on page 2, I only got that far.
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Of course there are mistakes - there were in the original and I wouldn't be shocked to find that I've made more. Did you make an account and fix them or write me and let me know?

I'm very happy to fix mistakes - I spent a LOT of time converting this to a database, and I've spent a lot of time fixing the mistakes in the original but I'm one person doing something for all to use for free.

Greg...
 
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