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Well, I know that keeping original is a lot more faithful, but it can keep you from getting on the road if your budget is small, and I want to hear her sing. So, I'm leaning towards changing the front brakes. I'll need to do my switch clusters too, (nothing there but the housings and no master cylinder). I was going to try a clutch perch and magura master cylinder from CNW. Then a braided steel line (25" I think), but I'm not sure if I will have an issue with the correct thread going into the caliper. Are they a standard brake line thread? Also the clutch perch throw or pulling length, will that be trouble? I found switch clusters at K & S,and the electrical part doesn't worry me to much. I saw the post about the inexpensive upgrade and it looks good, but I have to do it all, switches and clutch too.
 
SpacecoastDale said:
but I'm not sure if I will have an issue with the correct thread going into the caliper. Are they a standard brake line thread?
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Yes, it is 3/8" UNF.
 
SpacecoastDale said:
Well, I know that keeping original is a lot more faithful, but it can keep you from getting on the road if your budget is small, and I want to hear her sing. So, I'm leaning towards changing the front brakes. I'll need to do my switch clusters too, (nothing there but the housings and no master cylinder). I was going to try a clutch perch and magura master cylinder from CNW. Then a braided steel line (25" I think), but I'm not sure if I will have an issue with the correct thread going into the caliper. Are they a standard brake line thread? Also the clutch perch throw or pulling length, will that be trouble? I found switch clusters at K & S,and the electrical part doesn't worry me to much. I saw the post about the inexpensive upgrade and it looks good, but I have to do it all, switches and clutch too.
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Spacedale,

If you are thinking about our Brembo master cylinder, I have the banjo, braided line and bulkhead, that will make your hook up really straight forward. The bulkhead installs at the fender bracket and allows you to hook up to your stock, steel, hardline that goes to the caliper. In other words, that hardline is retained.

Magura clutch wont be an issue at all. The only thing about that perch is that it requires a smaller, Euro, barrel. You get one with the perch that can be soldered on to your exsisting cable or you can get a cable (Venhill) that has a smaller barrel.

Matt / Colorado Norton Works
 
SpacecoastDale said:
Well, I know that keeping original is a lot more faithful, but it can keep you from getting on the road if your budget is small, and I want to hear her sing. So, I'm leaning towards changing the front brakes. I'll need to do my switch clusters too, (nothing there but the housings and no master cylinder). I was going to try a clutch perch and magura master cylinder from CNW. Then a braided steel line (25" I think), but I'm not sure if I will have an issue with the correct thread going into the caliper. Are they a standard brake line thread? Also the clutch perch throw or pulling length, will that be trouble? I found switch clusters at K & S,and the electrical part doesn't worry me to much. I saw the post about the inexpensive upgrade and it looks good, but I have to do it all, switches and clutch too.
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These guys have a fitting to make just about any brake line fit a Norton. If they don't show it listed, give them a call and describe what you need. Their customer service people are unbelievable. (I don't work for them).
 
The CNW Brembo Mcylinder kit is a superb improvement, far more effective than a sleeved oem mCylinder. (I've had all three on my bike, oem, sleeved oem, Brembo) The kit, + some good Ferodo pads, will make the oem brakes feel/stop like a modern bike. Now if Matt & Co could figure out how to incorporate that MC into the oem lever/switchgear, I'd happily buy another kit from them to have that braking performance with the oem switchgear/levers! ;)
 
Wow, super help from everyone, thank you! I know the way forward now, and if I can I'll post photo's when it's done!
 
SpacecoastDale said:
and if I can I'll post photo's when it's done!
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All you need to do is upload the pix to a photobucket or whatever account (which is free), and post the links to the pics here...
 
Well, I got the Brembo upgrade recommended from Matt at CNW and it fit great! Thanks for the help guys! I did learn about cutting the seals when installing the caliper rebuild kit the hard way though. I should have smoothed the edges on the back side as recommended in the tech article at "Old Britts", but life is a learning experience right? Now that she runs and stops it's time to find some new shoes (tires), and I'm looking for turn signal lights (two broken). It still looks good time wise for being able to make it to Daytona this year.

I'm also gonna try to add some pics this time to see if I can do it so here goes:



http://s1282.beta.photobucket.com/user/ ... sort=3&o=1

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http://s1282.beta.photobucket.com/user/ ... sort=3&o=3
 
SpacecoastDale said:
Well, I got the Brembo upgrade recommended from Matt at CNW and it fit great! Thanks for the help guys! I did learn about cutting the seals when installing the caliper rebuild kit the hard way though. I should have smoothed the edges on the back side as recommended in the tech article at "Old Britts", but life is a learning experience right? Now that she runs and stops it's time to find some new shoes (tires), and I'm looking for turn signal lights (two broken). It still looks good time wise for being able to make it to Daytona this year.

I'm also gonna try to add some pics this time to see if I can do it so here goes:



Brakes again


Brakes again


Brakes again
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Look on the right side of the Photobucket page for Links. Pick the IMG code. Click, and it copies automatically. Then just paste in your post.
 
I'd say it qualifies as a "barn find". Now, let's hear not just the story, but what about the bike with the fairing in the background and what happened to the vintage surf boards?
 
Ok, well for those of you that want more of the story here goes: I spent 3 years working on my friend to let me bring her back to life, and when he said ok I was at his house in 20 minutes with the trailer. She spent at least 10 years hidden in that barn behind a wall of hay with the surfboards and boxes of parts. The other bike is a 1974 RD 350 Yamaha with the first 6 speed transmission that he raced in Dayton at least twice around 1981. I thought he was just telling stories, but was glad I finally got to him.
I've, been working on it for a couple months now, starting with the gas tank. Inside looked like a pile of leaves got stuffed in it, but it was plastic liner some one had put in before. I dug it all out and rattled 1" nuts and bolts around for an hour, then began fixing the holes with solder till it held water, then got a kit (POR-15 great stuff!) and it was holding fuel. Then I had to replace the petcocks and rebuild the carbs, get a battery, and two starter coils (hooked the first one up backwards and it was very exciting, like a grenade!).
Well, kicked about three times and she started right up, and sounds beautiful, like music! No smoke and no issues so far. Then I shut her down and started working on making her stop. Had no front master cylinder so went with the Brembo upgrade and got my first part from England (rear master cylinder housing assembly), and they were very quick and reasonably priced. I got the rest of the hoses and parts from Old Britts (very nice people and very helpful). Now I'm looking for tires. I'm gonna go with the original Avons even if it is a little more expensive, I think she deserves it.
So, that's where I'm at. Getting rubber on her and the a license tag, and then the turn signal lights. My goal is to take her to Dayton in March, hope I make it. The cosmetic stuff will progress along the way, but first I want a good ride, then we'll maker her pretty and proud.
I'll post more pics along the way, I'm sure I have more to learn as time goes by. This will be one fun "Hog Thumper"! :lol:
 
swooshdave said:
SpacecoastDale said:
Well, I got the Brembo upgrade recommended from Matt at CNW and it fit great! Thanks for the help guys! I did learn about cutting the seals when installing the caliper rebuild kit the hard way though. I should have smoothed the edges on the back side as recommended in the tech article at "Old Britts", but life is a learning experience right? Now that she runs and stops it's time to find some new shoes (tires), and I'm looking for turn signal lights (two broken). It still looks good time wise for being able to make it to Daytona this year.

I'm also gonna try to add some pics this time to see if I can do it so here goes:



Brakes again


Brakes again


Brakes again
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Look on the right side of the Photobucket page for Links. Pick the IMG code. Click, and it copies automatically. Then just paste in your post.
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I believe that this qualify as a best example of the proverbial BARN FIND! What a beauty, now as Swoosh said, the story please.
 
SpacecoastDale said:
Ok, well for those of you that want more of the story here goes: I spent 3 years working on my friend to let me bring her back to life, and when he said ok I was at his house in 20 minutes with the trailer. She spent at least 10 years hidden in that barn behind a wall of hay with the surfboards and boxes of parts. The other bike is a 1974 RD 350 Yamaha with the first 6 speed transmission that he raced in Dayton at least twice around 1981. I thought he was just telling stories, but was glad I finally got to him.
I've, been working on it for a couple months now, starting with the gas tank. Inside looked like a pile of leaves got stuffed in it, but it was plastic liner some one had put in before. I dug it all out and rattled 1" nuts and bolts around for an hour, then began fixing the holes with solder till it held water, then got a kit (POR-15 great stuff!) and it was holding fuel. Then I had to replace the petcocks and rebuild the carbs, get a battery, and two starter coils (hooked the first one up backwards and it was very exciting, like a grenade!).
Well, kicked about three times and she started right up, and sounds beautiful, like music! No smoke and no issues so far. Then I shut her down and started working on making her stop. Had no front master cylinder so went with the Brembo upgrade and got my first part from England (rear master cylinder housing assembly), and they were very quick and reasonably priced. I got the rest of the hoses and parts from Old Britts (very nice people and very helpful). Now I'm looking for tires. I'm gonna go with the original Avons even if it is a little more expensive, I think she deserves it.
So, that's where I'm at. Getting rubber on her and the a license tag, and then the turn signal lights. My goal is to take her to Dayton in March, hope I make it. The cosmetic stuff will progress along the way, but first I want a good ride, then we'll maker her pretty and proud.
I'll post more pics along the way, I'm sure I have more to learn as time goes by. This will be one fun "Hog Thumper"! :lol:
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Dear God , can we refrain from referring to a norton as a HOG!
Then again it's your ride. ...... My 2 cents
 
looking closely at the "850" which is actually a 750 with MK3 tranny, you can see the owner has modified the MK3 tranny shifting mechanism to fit the 750 , but still retain left shift operation, rather crude but interesting.
 
my apologies, the bike does appear to be a 850 MK3 but with 750 engine and primary cases.
 
I can't realy tel Space, I only have my Iphone to see it with but that left side shifting stuff doesn't look right (no pun intended) to me. Like the guys said are you sure this bike is a real MKIII 850 ?.
 
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