best way to prevent scoring pipes on tarmac

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hi there,

my pipes are scoring ground somtimes and i need to change something.
I would like to keep original pipes.
What do you think is the best way to get a little higher in the sharp corners.
ive got stock girlings and roadholders. maybe another spring in the front forks will help?
or some ikons? i know weight reduction hits the target, but is a little uncomfortable.
 
Have you changed your footpegs? On mine, they seem to touch down first (after the edge of my boot scrapes).
 
If the fork legs and rear girlings haven't been replaced with shorter theatherbed ones and you have the stock 19" wheels and tyres then the exhaust may be poorly made or fitted so as to stick out too far. If all are correct (I presume you have tried increasing the preload on the girlings, but do not over do it or the rear wheel will leave the ground on every bump) you should be able to corner fast enough with slight grounding not to have to worry about anyone following you!
 
hi there,

my pipes are scoring ground somtimes and i need to change something.
I would like to keep original pipes.
What do you think is the best way to get a little higher in the sharp corners.
ive got stock girlings and roadholders. maybe another spring in the front forks will help?
or some ikons? i know weight reduction hits the target, but is a little uncomfortable.
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The only way to get pipes to not scrape if you crank your bike over is to get the pipes bent and made to fit your bike, when I converted my Commando to the Featherbed frame back in the early 80s I built everything so nothing will scrape on the bike but I was lucky as I had a local muffler shop that had a mandle bending machine and a very experienced operator, but he said it's been 20 years since he made pipes for a bike but was very keen to make mine I had the complete bike there and told him I wanted the pipe tucked right into the bottom of the frame rails, he did every bend by eye, do one bend put the pipe up to the frame then do another bend and checked again, withing 15minutes he had the first pipe bent from the exhaust port to the rear axle and my original flange in place.
Then he did the other side and after 30minutes they were finished, was a pleasure watching a true trades man working, the best thing when finished there was a new chrome plating shop just opened next door, Ken the owner of the muffler shop who made the pipes was so thrilled in making them and he charged $20 to make and the chrome plater because he only just opened he charged me $20 to chrome, once they where done it was up to me to cut them where I wanted the mufflers mounted.
That was 1982 and I am still running those pipes, but have replaced the mufflers since I have a thing for upswept pipes so the header had a upswept bend and the cocktail saker mufflers also have a upswept angle, in 41 years I have never scraped the pipes or my foot pegs as they were mounted high as well and I do push my Norton to the limits of my rubber in the twisties.
The old headers are showing their age and one header has been brazed up from small holes on the first bend from the exhaust flange but that was brazed up about near 20 years ago.
About 20 years ago Ken who made my pipes was employed at my Tec College to teach exhaust bending and he remembered making my exhaust system all them years ago, but 12 months later when he started at the College he past away from a heart attack, his family is still running the muffler shop but the mandle bender is long gone, the new bending machines aren't as good as the old machines.
So really the only way to get perfect exhaust is to get them made for your bike, but the hardest part these days is finding someone who still is old hand at doing it.
A few weeks after he made my pipes he bent a new header for my mate's 1947 AJS and in 1984 he made a set of stainless steel headers for my 1981 Triumph Thunderbird.
100 miles from my place there is a tradesman who make x-pipes (Meerkat Exhausts) for our modern Triumphs he also make custom pipes a one man operation and he sells world wide, he made my x-pipe and opened up my stock mufflers for my 2016 Thruxton, so there are still great pipe makers out there, you just got to find them.
A pic with these made headers after 41 years on the Norton.
best way to prevent scoring pipes on tarmac
 
no750

It sounds like you are under sprung for your combined body and bike weight at both ends. So Yes on a slightly higher spring rate in front, or a set of cartridges and springs that will allow adjustment of compression damping to reduce dive. If the rear shocks are old try the ikons with a spring rate better suited to your body weight. Problem with getting springs that will work if you are a big guy is the ride over rough surfaces might get a little stiff.
 
Mick Hemmings had pipes on his Commando racer that tucked further up and in for extra clearance.
Not sure if they were a one off specially made thing tho.
 
Yes all the early Commando had the tuck in pipes, fastback one were horizontal , and the prodie wre upswept , nobody make them any more apparently , B Bogus advise me to not buy them to some UK suupliers who advertise them as early production racer but were not ..........
 
 
I remember my ’73 750 had scars on the left side pipe, footrest rubber ground off at 45 degrees and the outside of my boot heels ground. That was in the 80s. I’m older now and have a greater sense of mortality.
best way to prevent scoring pipes on tarmac
 
Have you changed your footpegs? On mine, they seem to touch down first (after the edge of my boot scrapes).
thanks.

no changed footpegs. pipes or their "usual clamps" to the gearbox are scoring first.
I will post a picture soon.
 
If the fork legs and rear girlings haven't been replaced with shorter theatherbed ones and you have the stock 19" wheels and tyres then the exhaust may be poorly made or fitted so as to stick out too far. If all are correct (I presume you have tried increasing the preload on the girlings, but do not over do it or the rear wheel will leave the ground on every bump) you should be able to corner fast enough with slight grounding not to have to worry about anyone following you!
Hi hybridracer, IIve got "new pipes" and they were purly made. i bend them to do their purpose - going vertical near the frame. i will post a picture soon.
 
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