It is our choice to be here on this forum. It is also our choice to pay the money to become VIP members, or not to become VIP members on this site. (Sorry, I don't feel excluded.) Further, it is our choice to be heard on any forum, or to be a fly on the wall. If the choice is made to let the Pub idea go by the way side, so be it. This site functions very well without it. What I don't think will happen if the Pub is created, is any loss of exclusivity, or inclusion. The same good folks here will still give the same sound advice and encouragement to the newbies, and to the weather-worn riders of these leaky old machines. My idea is that the Pub's intention is a sort of off-topic room where, perhaps more heated debates about things can be discussed with more latitude. Just as one can choose to enter a thread about what oil is the best for your Norton, one can choose to enter the Pub and meander around. If there is a place for this Pub, as the voting suggests, it should be created.
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