Seller says this 750 was restored and not a Combat

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But I disagree, comments? If restored the paint and hardware,wheels,spokes ,seat etc all seem original . The number 210584, fits into the Combat timeline



Seller says this 750 was restored and not a Combat
 
If you ordered a disc brake in 72 then you got the Combat engine, they were linked in the options, order one and you got the other. But if you had a drum braked 72 and front ended it, then fitted a disc front end the non combat engine would not magically become a combat. The despatch records are silent so how are you going to tell how it left the factory. How you tell what is a combat is already on the forum.

My Combat is an early number but left the factory late in the 72 model year as it got held up for some reason possibly for new mains ? . A lot were detuned when rebuilt after a blow up under warranty. The factory got into a mess sorting out the issues and the dealers had info changing all the time so even if it left as a combat it may no longer be a combat.
 
AFAIK, only the Combat had black cylinders in 72 and the "D" paint scheme on the tank was Combat and it is very poorly done on that bike so restored? Also, there's something off about the "Norton" on the tank. A restored bike would not have clearcoat and would have a "Norton" sticker on the tank. To me, "restored" means looks just like it left the factory back then - this bike does not qualify - not even close.

When I rebuild bikes, I never call them restored - I call them rebuilt - I want them to look better, be more reliable, and not have parts fall off!
 
Don't see where it says 'Restored' and non Combat.
A lot of original goodness going on.
Head spacing says its a Combat.
Not sure why someone would deny it, unless they have knowledge of it being De-cammed.
It's for sure a Mk IV, which usually dictates 72, but then again, original registration is always suspect.

Typically, Mk V is a 73, with the bigger Black clocks, larger tailight, pin hole seat.
Just like the 850, but 750 with Black barrels and no pinstriping.
 
MichaelB said:
Don't see where it says 'Restored' and non Combat.
A lot of original goodness going on.
Head spacing says its a Combat.
Not sure why someone would deny it, unless they have knowledge of it being De-cammed.
It's for sure a Mk IV, which usually dictates 72, but then again, original registration is always suspect.

Typically, Mk V is a 73, with the bigger Black clocks, larger tailight, pin hole seat.
Just like the 850, but 750 with Black barrels and no pinstriping.
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I asked the seller , he said it was restored, and it was not a combat, ( I think he is mistaken on both IMHO)
A lot of original goodness going on. I agree
Head spacing says its a Combat. I agree
 
It’s a combat head and 1972 year manufactured model. Hard to say how it was originally titled or what has been changed since new.
 
Sure looks like a '72 Mk IV Combat to me. Pretty original, even has the OEM 16 pleat seat with the strap in good condition that I would love to have for mine. The tank and side covers are questionable--maybe repainted with new decals and clear coated. Curious if they are fiberglass or steel (I think I see a metal lip around the bottom of the tank and the left side cover has a ding that looks like steel)--a '72 Combat that I bought new back in the day had fiberglass, but my current restored one has steel and I know that they were changed out. Only 3,800 miles--assuming no major defects, this would make a nice project bike.
 
marshg246 said:
AFAIK, only the Combat had black cylinders in 72 and the "D" paint scheme on the tank was Combat and it is very poorly done on that bike so restored? Also, there's something off about the "Norton" on the tank. A restored bike would not have clearcoat and would have a "Norton" sticker on the tank. To me, "restored" means looks just like it left the factory back then - this bike does not qualify - not even close.

When I rebuild bikes, I never call them restored - I call them rebuilt - I want them to look better, be more reliable, and not have parts fall off!
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The 'D' paint scheme was used on all black 750 Roadsters from 1971 to the '73 850 models. The tank decal on this one is the early style black edged gold non-die cut verstion. The best way to tell a Combat is with the 'C' stamp on the head and 32 mm intake ports (standard was 28.5 mm). I whole-heartedly agree with you about 'restored' bikes. Restoration takes much more time (and money!) to find original parts (or at least quality reproductions when originals are simply not available). While I have restored a few, I would rather build a bike that looks like it could be factory, but is much improved.
 
Ron L said:
The 'D' paint scheme was used on all black 750 Roadsters from 1971 to the '73 850 models.
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99% sure that's not true. I would really like to know your proof as it contradicts much of what I say on my web site and what's in manuals. Also, I'm never heard of an 850 with the "D".
 
No directionals, which like. I didn't have them on my '71 and removed them on the '73. My left arm still works fine.
 
I took my directionals off early on after the bike fell over in the driveway and they did a number on the headlight shell and mounting ears. When I ride nowadays I sometimes wonder if people are taught or understand hand signals anymore.
 
Deckard said:
No directionals, which like. I didn't have them on my '71 and removed them on the '73. My left arm still works fine.
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All true.

Sadly, people younger than 30, have no idea what hand signals even are, nor would they care.
While left turn is obvious, right turn or stop is merely amusing to them.

Enjoy the nostalgia (we all do here) and stay safe.
 
In the UK they definitely don't get hand signals
I've had people thinking I'm waving them out of a side road before!
 
baz said:
That's the thing
Obviously we ride on the left over here and I was turning right
There was a bloke waiting to pull out of the turning he saw me stick my arm out,he waved back and pulled out right in front of me
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Yup, things were alot different 50 years ago.....................:D:D:D
 
Yeh
Ron L said:
The 'D' paint scheme was used on all black 750 Roadsters from 1971 to the '73 850 models. The tank decal on this one is the early style black edged gold non-die cut verstion. The best way to tell a Combat is with the 'C' stamp on the head and 32 mm intake ports (standard was 28.5 mm). I whole-heartedly agree with you about 'restored' bikes. Restoration takes much more time (and money!) to find original parts (or at least quality reproductions when originals are simply not available). While I have restored a few, I would rather build a bike that looks like it could be factory, but is much improved.
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…restoration can mean put in new spark plugs:(
 
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