Ceramic exhaust coating

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It’s always good to share info on good suppliers I feel.

So for those interested in such things, I’ve recently used Zircotec for a couple of exhaust system coatings.

They claim a 33% reduction in external heat with their top product, it has a slightly textured finish tho so might not suit all. And is available in 14 colours, inc 3 blacks!

They normally deal with the big boys, modern car teams etc, but are happy to accommodate small jobs.

The last job they promised within a week, it took 2 days.

Highly recommended.

In Abingdon.

zircotec.com

Performance Colours™

Zircotec’s Performance Colours™ range of high-performance thermal barrier coatings contains 14 distinctive shades
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Reads/sounds from your description a lot like this US based product. (Not to take away from, but a this-side-of-the-pond option) Likewise, I'm just blown away how durable it is.


C-7600 CERAKOTE GLACIER BLACK | Cerakote Ceramic Coatings

www.cerakote.com www.cerakote.com

Baked on Coolant, oil, brake fluid, gas.... I just wipe it with brake cleaner. Like new.

Available for self application, or as a professional service.
 
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Ceracote is likely the product being used.
I was quoted £800 (over $1k) by a famous UK suspension specialist company to Ceracote a pair of Marzocchi fork sliders.
I politely declined.
I'd assumed it was a crazy expensive product, but evidently not - thanks 👍🏻
 
B+Bogus said:
Ceracote is likely the product being used.
I was quoted £800 (over $1k) by a famous UK suspension specialist company to Ceracote a pair of Marzocchi fork sliders.
I politely declined.
I'd assumed it was a crazy expensive product, but evidently not - thanks 👍🏻
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£800 ??

Me thinks they taketh the piss !
 
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I'm currently experimenting with a series of thermal coatings, based on a recommendation from a friend of mine who does a bit of landspeed racing.

His approach involves coating the entire combustion-to-exhaust path, including the combustion chamber, exhaust port, and even the inside of the exhaust header. While I won’t go into the specifics of his setup or results.

My basic understanding of the benefits of his approach is, by reducing the rate of heat transfer from the gas to the metal, you are keeping the exhaust gases hotter for longer. Hotter gases maintain higher velocity and energy as they move through the system, which helps maintain scavenging effects and can ultimately improve cylinder filling and power.

All of this is to say if this works right you probably cant put your hand behind the exhaust pipe.
 
maaseyracer said:
I'm currently experimenting with a series of thermal coatings, based on a recommendation from a friend of mine who does a bit of landspeed racing.

His approach involves coating the entire combustion-to-exhaust path, including the combustion chamber, exhaust port, and even the inside of the exhaust header. While I won’t go into the specifics of his setup or results.

My basic understanding of the benefits of his approach is, by reducing the rate of heat transfer from the gas to the metal, you are keeping the exhaust gases hotter for longer. Hotter gases maintain higher velocity and energy as they move through the system, which helps maintain scavenging effects and can ultimately improve cylinder filling and power.

All of this is to say if this works right you probably cant put your hand behind the exhaust pipe.
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Be interesting to see how that goes.

Other than looking good I do wonder about the benefits for bikes. I could see it with car guys trying to keep heat out of the engine bay but on an open bike I wonder. Useful with full faring I guess?

Definitely not saying no. But interested in real results.
 
maaseyracer said:
I'm currently experimenting with a series of thermal coatings, based on a recommendation from a friend of mine who does a bit of landspeed racing.

His approach involves coating the entire combustion-to-exhaust path, including the combustion chamber, exhaust port, and even the inside of the exhaust header. While I won’t go into the specifics of his setup or results.

My basic understanding of the benefits of his approach is, by reducing the rate of heat transfer from the gas to the metal, you are keeping the exhaust gases hotter for longer. Hotter gases maintain higher velocity and energy as they move through the system, which helps maintain scavenging effects and can ultimately improve cylinder filling and power.

All of this is to say if this works right you probably cant put your hand behind the exhaust pipe.
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Do your research and take extreme care.

When I first rebuilt my 850 I did piston crowns, combustion chamber, valve faces and exhaust ports.

I scored up a piston quite badly, and on disassembly noticed large-ish pieces of the combustion chamber coating missing!

Whether or not this contributed to the piston scoring I do not know, actually I suspect it was NOT related, but cannot be sure.

And, all of this coating was handled by a professional company too, so its failure was not down to my DIY sloppiness. I don’t think they did a good job. It was kinda ‘welled up’ quite thick where it had settled in places, so it was definitely too thick in paces, and uneven.

With engine internals, the only coatings I’ll use now are anti friction coatings on the pistons skirts. And where possible, I buy the pistons pre coated (from JS Motorsport).
 
Fast Eddie said:
It’s always good to share info on good suppliers I feel.

So for those interested in such things, I’ve recently used Zircotec for a couple of exhaust system coatings.

They claim a 33% reduction in external heat with their top product, it has a slightly textured finish tho so might not suit all. And is available in 14 colours, inc 3 blacks!

They normally deal with the big boys, modern car teams etc, but are happy to accommodate small jobs.

The last job they promised within a week, it took 2 days.

Highly recommended.

In Abingdon.

zircotec.com

Performance Colours™

Zircotec’s Performance Colours™ range of high-performance thermal barrier coatings contains 14 distinctive shades
zircotec.com zircotec.com

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Looks marvellous! Ceramic coating looks a proper job an all....😀
 
maaseyracer said:
I'm currently experimenting with a series of thermal coatings, based on a recommendation from a friend of mine who does a bit of landspeed racing.

His approach involves coating the entire combustion-to-exhaust path, including the combustion chamber, exhaust port, and even the inside of the exhaust header. While I won’t go into the specifics of his setup or results.

My basic understanding of the benefits of his approach is, by reducing the rate of heat transfer from the gas to the metal, you are keeping the exhaust gases hotter for longer. Hotter gases maintain higher velocity and energy as they move through the system, which helps maintain scavenging effects and can ultimately improve cylinder filling and power.

All of this is to say if this works right you probably cant put your hand behind the exhaust pipe.
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There is a company in Burlington, NC called Jet Coat that coats headers, exhaust systems, etc. I had a 6 cylinder header set done by them inside and out.
A lot of race teams started doing this years ago with proven results, one of which is allowing the exhaust to escape quicker and cooler exhaust temps as well.
I think they charged me $ 300.00 US, and the results were beautiful. Done in under a week. Like the company in the UK, they offer different "colors", I chose
a classic aluminum type outer color, but they do a lot of black pipes, especially for the Harley guys.
 
Fast Eddie said:
It’s always good to share info on good suppliers I feel.

So for those interested in such things, I’ve recently used Zircotec for a couple of exhaust system coatings.

They claim a 33% reduction in external heat with their top product, it has a slightly textured finish tho so might not suit all. And is available in 14 colours, inc 3 blacks!

They normally deal with the big boys, modern car teams etc, but are happy to accommodate small jobs.

The last job they promised within a week, it took 2 days.

Highly recommended.

In Abingdon.

zircotec.com

Performance Colours™

Zircotec’s Performance Colours™ range of high-performance thermal barrier coatings contains 14 distinctive shades
zircotec.com zircotec.com

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Nigel,
That looks like a beautiful project you have there!How about some more pictures?
 
Fast Eddie said:
Do your research and take extreme care.

When I first rebuilt my 850 I did piston crowns, combustion chamber, valve faces and exhaust ports.

I scored up a piston quite badly, and on disassembly noticed large-ish pieces of the combustion chamber coating missing!

Whether or not this contributed to the piston scoring I do not know, actually I suspect it was NOT related, but cannot be sure.

And, all of this coating was handled by a professional company too, so its failure was not down to my DIY sloppiness. I don’t think they did a good job. It was kinda ‘welled up’ quite thick where it had settled in places, so it was definitely too thick in paces, and uneven.

With engine internals, the only coatings I’ll use now are anti friction coatings on the pistons skirts. And where possible, I buy the pistons pre coated (from JS Motorsport).
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I have seen this with coatings in the past. Not all coatings can take the heat of an air cooled engine.
 
My Norton 750 combustion chambers and exhaust ports are automatically coated with carbon. :)

Must be nice to have a very deep wallet and the passion to spend the contents on motorcycles.
 
Fast Eddie said:
Do your research and take extreme care.

When I first rebuilt my 850 I did piston crowns, combustion chamber, valve faces and exhaust ports.

I scored up a piston quite badly, and on disassembly noticed large-ish pieces of the combustion chamber coating missing!

Whether or not this contributed to the piston scoring I do not know, actually I suspect it was NOT related, but cannot be sure.

And, all of this coating was handled by a professional company too, so its failure was not down to my DIY sloppiness. I don’t think they did a good job. It was kinda ‘welled up’ quite thick where it had settled in places, so it was definitely too thick in paces, and uneven.

With engine internals, the only coatings I’ll use now are anti friction coatings on the pistons skirts. And where possible, I buy the pistons pre coated (from JS Motorsport).
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crusadersports said:
Oh Blimey that looks good! I know youre a bit over build threads, Nigel, but I'm sure im not the only one who would love to hear how you get on with that sharpest 'track tool' in the box!
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Yeah I’m looking forward to trying it out. I’ve ridden one very similar, and was very impressed by it, obviously !

95 bore, short stroke, 4 valve head, 6 speed TTI, K-Tech front and rear, blah, blah. Yes, I may have gone a bit extreme with the brakes, but after being spoiled by the set up on the Seeley, I didn’t want to be disappointed !

Out at Cadwell with it soon.

I expect the bike to be fine… more than fine… and can confidently predict what the bottleneck to lower lap time will be…!
 
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