KiwiShane
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You left out (no surprise) that smug racist asshole Don Lemon who whined his way out the door pointing fingers at anyone but himself. IMHO every bit the divisive personality/commentator that Carlson is accused of being.A net positive for US news coverage methinks, with Tucker Carlson getting the sack (or walking - who knows)!
Anybody that values serious journalism should probably raise a glass! My thoughts only.
Eye roll...Dude are you serious ?At least they (NBC) were reporting facts, these two did get booted, that's a fact. Unlike what you get from the cable news that employed them.
Dan Rather was once the most respected news man in the US till CBS decided to run with the unsubstantiated story of George W. Bush's Air national Guard story. And then denied and lied about the vetting of the documents, witnesses and experts, claiming "political operatives" were out to discredit them. Ever since Watergate every bozo with a camera and computer thinks they can be the one to bring down the high and mighty in the name of truth and justice. Funny how they never fired Rather though.....I guess we’re each responsible for finding news that we can trust - if we are going to rely on it. Carlson, apparently, used to be a respected journalist. Ratings and money (I guess) won out and the rest as they say is history - he would clearly cover any story from the most ‘ratings worthy’ angle possible (as directed no doubt) - the truth be damned. I (very) strongly suspect that he believed only a fraction of what he reported. Ratings = money = fame = (perceived) success = ratings = money………etc!
I’ve spent time in the states and served alongside US troops, so no disrespect intended - but can one of our American friends please tell me how this guy, on that network, became the most popular newsreader on cable TV? Genuine question, the answer to which makes me slightly nervous.
And he was a cocky jerk before that story ever evolved. I saw him strutting around wearing a set of polished .45 ACP's while he was supposedly reporting on US military superiority. Reporters are supposed to be non-combatants and plenty of other reporters were pissed at his "hey look at me BS". They felt his armed appearance put a target on the rest of them.Dan Rather was once the most respected news man in the US till CBS decided to run with the unsubstantiated story of George W. Bush's Air national Guard story. And then denied and lied about the vetting of the documents, witnesses and experts, claiming "political operatives" were out to discredit them. Ever since Watergate every bozo with a camera and computer thinks they can be the one to bring down the high and mighty in the name of truth and justice. Funny how they never fired Rather though.....
Your comment/observation is completely lost on me (facts?) and I was going to offer another view but I noticed you have been in here for 10 years with over 100 posts and you have not bucked up a cent in support of the forum.At least they (NBC) were reporting facts, these two did get booted, that's a fact. Unlike what you get from the cable news that employed them.
I don’t think there’s any value in conflating judgement of the two to make a comparison. News sites will always cater for their customers
I could not disagree more.
A "value in conflating judgement"? Really?
We have a rudimentary disagreement in what a "news" site is, and isn't. I
Unlike you, I could give two $hit$ what noted tv personality got canned.I do not consider a talking head (belching out their polished teleprompter lines) to be a massive story of real world information. Its all BS and fluff, thus my distinction between the two.
Viewers and customers are a very different and distinct group in the world of broadcasting.
I am interested in seeking knowledge of real world activities, like US special forces having to evacuate an American Embassy.
I cite priorities of said news source. That is the difference in what information relayed is viable, and what is not.
IMHO Damn near all of them
I was referring to the (lack of) value in conflating lives lost in conflict with jobs lost by a couple of talking heads and then asking for judgement on ‘what is morally more important to the public’. Not sure what you are saying really.
The sacking of Carlson is a massive story because of what it means - context - not that the bloated windbag lost his job. Losing his job the week after $1bn fine is levelled at his employer for lying about the stolen exxxxxn, and everything that means! As you guys are gearing up for a re-run of the same contest, I’d say that proof of (yet more) blatant lies (and the consequences that followed) make it a pretty big story.
I would hope we all care about what is happening in the world and receiving accurate news coverage of key events - you don’t have a monopoly on that requirement.
Clearly not too valuable to ‘beat that dead horse’ though……… ? I imagine the horse in this idiom to represent anyone from a different bar.What happened to the steadfast ethical mandate you posted so many pages back, you know, where you normally stand above it all...and then stated:
I usually ignore this sort of stuff as any sane person would, for reasons you allude to above, but when you get slapped in the face with it on a website dedicated to your favourite motorcycle marque - well, how much can a Koala bear!
Whatever...I don't care about understanding your rehashed "this is what I meant" references.
We have a rudimentary difference in what logic and accountability actually mean.
Clearly those two have left the building and my time is too valuable to continueSee you round' the campus...maybe talking bikes instead of stupid beer marketing.
Come on Shane, there’s enough conspiracy theories on the forum; no need to start your own !...a educational glance for Stephen Spencer or who ever you are.
Is that all you got ?Come on Shane, there’s enough conspiracy theories on the forum; no need to start your own !
I bet there hasn't been this much panic in a corporate boardroom since Ford introduced the Edsel.Social justice ?
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