Buy parts in Great Britain after Brexit

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Just to compare.
Andover DE sells a bearing n. 06.4118 for the equivalent of £ 55 while Andover Uk for £ 50.
 
The idea of registering in the EU will collect the VAT and may speed the process up. Some systems are pretty advanced and will know what to add once the shipping address is entered. Though it is not certain yet, but it would not take much to incorporate a tariff equation as well using contents origin declaration. I suspect that will come after the VAT at point of sale is in place. It will the new way of moving parcels globally, seems daunting but will be the same the world over.
However, watch what is currently charged, some are claiming border exit charges and handling charges. Border charge for what border?? The country it exits or all borders on route. Recently a lorry freight shipper tried charging this, but did not indicate what border, the quote from a global parcel handling company for the same parcel coming from the EU was a third the price.
Hopefully in 12 months time shipping to the EU and globally should be a lot easier.
 
kommando said:
Should be none, UK VAT still only applies to sales inside UK and the US customs rules have not changed.
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Wait and see, I suspect the US are looking at a system to collect state taxes at point of sale. Mind you at the moment it seems that the US could teach the EU a thing or two. One parcel was 39 hours to the US, taxes collected, strange why the inefficient EU can't do the same.
Global collection of VAT systems will be the norm in the near future.
 
Madnorton said:
Wait and see, I suspect the US are looking at a system to collect state taxes at point of sale. Mind you at the moment it seems that the US could teach the EU a thing or two. One parcel was 39 hours to the US, taxes collected, strange why the inefficient EU can't do the same.
Global collection of VAT systems will be the norm in the near future.
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Because the EU have decided in their infinite wisdom to put as many stumbling blocks as possible - they want to break the UK.
 
How do our Swiss and Norwegian brothers deal with these rules?
AFAIK the EU is simply responding to the UK's changed situation, not the other way around?

I know of folks trying to buy from EU suppliers who are now just flat refusing due to the increased bureaucracy and risks of goods being bounced back
 
Gents,
Before you all get too enthusiastic about buying from my German shop let me please explain a few things:

1. My webshop cannot be tied in with my stores software, that being an MS/DOS one written in the 1980s(!), hence items may show as "available" when in fact they are sold out. Andover Norton is in the modern world in this respect, so what shows as "stock" actually is.
2. This worked fine up to December 2020 because I had Norton and Triumph parts coming in on a weekly basis so if something wasn't in stock it meant but a short delay in despatching that order.

With parcels now being held up in German customs for up to over 3 weeks, my first Andover Norton shipment with 6 boxes sent out on the 8th January has still not been cleared by customs(!), my previous system has hit a brick wall. I cannot now guarantee the goods will leave the same day or at worst within a working week. At the moment I can't guarantee anything! Read the (German) text I put up on the homepage about Brexit.

There are more considerations why those not living in German-speaking countries should continue to buy from Andover Norton. You must know I am but a one-man-band in my German shop, looking after trade and end customers as well as being involved in organizing the spares offerings of Andover Norton. I have enough to do as is, with just Germany, Austria and Switzerland to look after, thank you!

The reason why we put so much effort in the webshop of Andover Norton and why we also shifted my international trading in Triumph parts to Andover last year was my work overload. The intention was to get the international customers professionally and effectively served by our team in Andover. In Andover we have a team of over a dozen people with two professional buyers and enough packers plus the latest logistics software to organize the stores so they don't normally run out of items (suppliers permitting!) and to get the parcels out the door within 24 hours.

An example: On Wednesday I spent most of the day on the phone traying to reach customs. It was like "Groundhog Day", I ended up in an ansaphone system where every time after the three previous steps you were to at last be passed on to an operator but instead re-started at the beginning.

So, please, Piero and others, Brexit is what it is. It throws trading with England back into the medieval times of carnets, customs and delays, not to mention unnecessary costs. Reminds me of the dark days when I started in business. Thank all the enthusiastic Brexiteers for it. I can't change it, and I suffer more than you probably do from a half-baked deal in the 13th hour that customs and trade were landed with with virtually no help by the political "leaders".

One big English supplier I had to virtually ORDER to send my order off yesterday. They hadn't dared for three weeks because of the report of stuff coming back or being stuck in customs and simply did not know what to do! What this self-inflicted chaos will do to British exports is everybody's guess.

All we can hope for is that, with a bit of time, customs can deal faster and more efficiently with the situation and the inevitable delays will get shorter. We will, however, most probably never get back to modern times in the EU trading with Great Britain. The days of three working days from despatch to delivery I was used to are definitely over. As are the times when my stores contained 98% of the listed goods.

Joe Seifert
www.nortonmotors.de (who came up with andover-norton.de?)
 
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RoadScholar said:
Any sense of what impact this may have for US purchasers of UK parts?

Best.
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None, just be grateful you won't be selling to the UK, or you would need to register for UK tax and collect the tax for the UK government....a lot of companies have already said....No!...why would I do that?
 
Bernhard said:
Since your new president has not put this on his to do list, nobody knows yet, but watch this space. . . . .
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You are going to wait a very long time....probably until the next president is sworn in at least....
 
Joe's parcels are correctly labelled as per the EU requirement, but still stuck.
Blame who you like, but when parcels are correctly labelled and still fail to clear EU customs, don't blame Brexit.
 
ZFD said:
Gents,
Before you all get too enthusiastic about buying from my German shop let me please explain a few things:

1. My webshop cannot be tied in with my stores software, that being an MS/DOS one written in the 1980s(!), hence items may show as "available" when in fact they are sold out. Andover Norton is in the modern world in this respect, so what shows as "stock" actually is.
2. This worked fine up to December 2020 because I had Norton and Triumph parts coming in on a weekly basis so if something wasn't in stock it meant but a short delay in despatching that order.

With parcels now being held up in German customs for up to over 3 weeks, my first Andover Norton shipment with 6 boxes sent out on the 8th January has still not been cleared by customs(!), my previous system has hit a brick wall. I cannot now guarantee the goods will leave the same day or at worst within a working week. At the moment I can't guarantee anything! Read the (German) text I put up on the homepage about Brexit.

There are more considerations why those not living in German-speaking countries should continue to buy from Andover Norton. You must know I am but a one-man-band in my German shop, looking after trade and end customers as well as being involved in organizing the spares offerings of Andover Norton. I have enough to do as is, with just Germany, Austria and Switzerland to look after, thank you!

The reason why we put so much effort in the webshop of Andover Norton and why we also shifted my international trading in Triumph parts to Andover last year was my work overload. The intention was to get the international customers professionally and effectively served by our team in Andover. In Andover we have a team of over a dozen people with two professional buyers and enough packers plus the latest logistics software to organize the stores so they don't normally run out of items (suppliers permitting!) and to get the parcels out the door within 24 hours.

An example: On Wednesday I spent most of the day on the phone traying to reach customs. It was like "Groundhog Day", I ended up in an ansaphone system where every time after the three previous steps you were to at last be passed on to an operator but instead re-started at the beginning.

So, please, Piero and others, Brexit is what it is. It throws trading with England back into the medieval times of carnets, customs and delays, not to mention unnecessary costs. Reminds me of the dark days when I started in business. Thank all the enthusiastic Brexiteers for it. I can't change it, and I suffer more than you probably do from a half-baked deal in the 13th hour that customs and trade were landed with with virtually no help by the political "leaders".

One big English supplier I had to virtually ORDER to send my order off yesterday. They hadn't dared for three weeks because of the report of stuff coming back or being stuck in customs and simply did not know what to do! What this self-inflicted chaos will do to British exports is everybody's guess.

All we can hope for is that, with a bit of time, customs can deal faster and more efficiently with the situation and the inevitable delays will get shorter. We will, however, most probably never get back to modern times in the EU trading with Great Britain. The days of three working days from despatch to delivery I was used to are definitely over. As are the times when my stores contained 98% of the listed goods.

Joe Seifert
www.nortonmotors.de (who came up with andover-norton.de?)
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Dear Mr. President,

your kind reply does not address the issue raised by me.

The bilateral effects of Brexit are well known to all, and each of us European citizens will have to pay national VAT and customs duties upon receipt of goods from England.

My objection, to which you do not give an answer, is that the GB / EU agreements provide for a threshold of 135 pounds where the goods are "duty free", which means that only the national VAT is paid without the increase of taxes and customs.

Here comes the problem.

The courier you have chosen unduly asks for parcels in the 135 pounds threshold a percentage of about 15% for customs clearance services that do not exist, which are not due and which are not reported.

Although I pay for the goods, I am equally grateful to you for your activity towards us customers, but I do not understand this benevolence towards your carriers.

A mystery then remains why from Germany you "can" only sell to Germans, Austrians and Swiss.

There must be a new treaty intended only for German speaking that I am not aware of, and this deficiency of mine embarrasses me because a good lawyer, whom I mistakenly thought I was until now, should know the laws.

Sincerely.

Piero
 
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