Road Holder Fork Badges Advice Needed

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Hello I have ordered these badges from the UK recently. I want to install them on my fork sliders with Gorilla 2 sided tape . But can someone help me decide how to deal with the rivets ? I understood Clive say he used a socket to bend/form the curve , but how do I peen the rivets ?

Road Holder Fork Badges Advice Needed
 
You could cut the rivets down to same thickness as the badge and then glue them in.

It's not going to make those forks roadholders though. ;)

Ian
 
Once you get the plate contoured properly, just cut/grind down the rivets, and JBWeld the heads to the plate.
Then you can tape it to the fork.
Or use some silicone adhesive on the back like the reflectors have.

Since the boys at Donington like to use their CNC equipment, why don't they offer an option:
Engrave the Roadholder badge directly into the fork tube, a few thousands deep, and fill the relief with black paint.
That would be classic custom cool.
 
Can I shorten then peen the rivets ? Use a small socket as the anvil and a punch . ?
 
Can I shorten then peen the rivets ? Use a small socket as the anvil and a punch . ?
I don’t think so as the rivets supplied are much thinner than the hole in the badge. What I did is put the rivet in the hole and cut it down as close as I could from the back with a set of side cutters. Smoothed out the cut part of the rivet on the grinder and glued it in place (from the back)
 
Actually they are not rivets, but "Hammer drive screws" and probably hardened. Unless you want to start drilling your lovely Ohlins I would do what others suggested - i.e. cut off the head, and glue the plate on then the heads.

Cheers,

cliffa.
 
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Actually they are not rivets, but "Hammer drive screws" and probably hardened, so i would do what others suggested - i.e. cut off the head, and glue the plate on then the heads.

Cheers,

cliffa.

Hammer drive screws are meant to be driven into a slightly undersized hole. I would drill undersized and apply a little red LockTite before driving home.

On any project such as this, I locate the holes by first laying down a strip of masking tape, aligning the part, marking the holes with a sharp pencil, then removing the part, center punching the holes, drill, remove tape, apply part, and go for it.

Slick
 
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thanks Slick,
I know exactly what they are and how to use them ;) I just don't know if if TonyA wants to start drilling a very expensive pair of Ohlin forks. (I don't think I would).


Cheers,

cliffa.
 
Forgive the fakery ! Insist on Genuine Brass Norton Roadholder Fork Badges .

In which case, why would you fake the genuine badges and rivets by glueing them?

BTW, if i were doing this, I would likely drill and tap 4-40 holes, then fasten the badges on with brass slotted pan head 4-40 x 1/4 screws. This is not strictly "Norton pure", but neither are drive screws.

One more thing ..... double sided tape will hold the badge off the surface about 0.015" ..... enough to make it look like a bodge.
Slick
 
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I'm not sure I won't booger that up ! Can some of you guys send a pic of your badges installed ? Thanks
 
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An old thread I know but it did’nt seem to reach a conclusion. I guess that the ‘Roadholder’ badges on any 961 is ‘fakery’ if you like, but still gives an authentic nod to the history of the model in my opinion. I think they look pretty cool on the 961 but cannot find many models where the badges were included. You will recognise this bike of course! Which models included the ‘Roadholder‘ badges? Did Norton glue them or drill and rivet/screw them in place on the Ohlins?
Road Holder Fork Badges Advice Needed
 
Adding the original brass ‘Roadholder‘ badges to the Norton Ohlins forks is fakery to some and a nice nod to the heritage of the machine for others - Norton Donington did this for a few special runs. I have no problem with representative images and symbols; these badges look particularly good on the black/gold bike IMO.

This method of attaching them is non-destructive and reversible - no drilling or adhesives applied to the forks themselves, or requirement to remove the Ohlins decal.

a. Clean fork lowers with isopropyl alcohol, in the area to receive the badges.
b. Wrap that area with clear 3M Paint Protection Film (PPF) - join to the inside face. Allow several days to cure.
c. Form the brass badges in position and cable tie securely; leave overnight.
d. Form the badges around an item of slightly less dia - I used a 34mm socket. This will get them very close to the required curve, less the outer edges. Manipulate the outer edges by hand pressure until the correct curve is achieved. Being careful and patient will result in the correct curve.
e. Using ‘Fix All‘ Crystal (100% transparent) polymer sealant (or similar) fix the badges in position.


- This is a neutral non-staining, solvent free product that will not affect the integrity of 3M PPF.
- The badge, when positioned correctly, completely covers the blue Ohlins decal (just) but not the outer corners of its clear border. You have to get pretty close to see it. This will place the badges in the correct position, albeit 1mm above centre.
- Press firmly into position and remove excess sealant. Secure tightly with a narrow cable tie, remove any further excess and leave for 24 hrs.

f. The drive screws are hardened - remove the drive section from the head using a Dremel cutting wheel. Remove any remaining excess, leaving 0.5 - 1mm to engage with the mounting holes, using a small Dremel grinding bit.
g. Remove cured sealant from the badge mounting holes without damaging the PPF, using an electricians screwdriver.
h. Fix the drive screw heads with the sealer, taking care to remove all excess. Isopropyl alcohol and cotton buds works well. Leave to cure fully.

To remove, apply light heat to the joint in the PPF and remove the PPF, with badge/screw heads complete.

Best left to the patient and fastidious; spending 20 mins on your hands and knees looking for a tiny screw head ain’t no fun - ask me how I know?

And remember - it’s in the eye of the beholder!

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Before SG Norton went tits up, I got chatting with SG and SS at the NEC show. One of them said they were looking at making their own forks, hence the idea to dredge up the Roadholder brand. I think the idea was to basically get punters used to the name and brand by sticking it on Ohlins forks, and then start using their own.

They didn’t say why, but I’m guessing it was a cost motivated thing.

So, there was a bit more behind the idea than simply a nod to the heritage.
 
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