Where to connect the Oil Tank Breather hose on 850 Commando

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Hello again. I have a 74 850 Commando and I need to know where to attach the oil tank breather hose?? I am using twin Amals with the type of oval aftermarket airfilter that attaches to the back of the carbs with hose clamps. It of course has no way to attach a breather hose to it. Should I just connect the breather hose to the rubber crosssover line on the intake manifolds in front of the carbs??? Will it harm anything if I just plug it up as it leaves the top of the oil tank??? What is the purpose of this breather hose??? Thanks---Mark C
 
Don't connect the breather to the balance pipe between the manifolds, it will cause a vacuum leak that will upset the carburation. If running the breather into the intake it needs to be done on the air filter side of the carbs. You cannot block it off either as pressure will build up in the oil tank, the purpose of the breather is to vent blow by gasses from the engine and oil tank. I am going through the same process on my 750 and will be running the breather to atmosphere via a catch can to collect any oil that may come out with the oil vapor and blow by gasses.

Graeme
 
Re: Where to connect the Oil Tank Breather hose on 850 Comma

Mark Cigainero said:
Should I just connect the breather hose to the rubber crosssover line on the intake manifolds in front of the carbs???

I wouldn't do that, as you would be introducing an 'air leak' into the inlets? Air would be sucked in by the engine, resulting in a weak mixture. The original system worked because the oil separator vented into the airbox as well as being connected to the balance pipe tee, therefore the depression in the separator pipe is equal to the depression in the carb inlets, so air doesn't get sucked into the engine from the separator pipe.



Mark Cigainero said:
Will it harm anything if I just plug it up as it leaves the top of the oil tank??? What is the purpose of this breather hose??? Thanks---Mark C

No, don't plug it up.

1. The crankcase breather pipe is connected to the oil tank normally, so the tank must have an atmospheric vent for the breather to work.

2. The return side of the oil pump has double the delivery rate of the feed side in order to remove any accumulation of oil from the sump and keep the sump clear by being able to empty it faster than the feed side can fill it, this means that the scavenge pump will normally pick up large amounts of air as well as oil, which ends up getting pumped into the oil tank.
That air needs to be allowed to escape from the tank, otherwise the air pressure inside the oil tank could possibly rise to a level that would restrict the return oil flow to the tank or cause pipe joint leaks or even cause the oil pipes to blow off their spigots.
Although in reality I expect a large amount of that air pressure would leak from the filler cap seal?
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Graeme posted ahead of me as I was typing this, as I was also going to suggest you run the vent pipe into a small plastic bottle catch tank to collect any oil mist as I have done on my own Mk3 with custom air filters.
 
I run mine into a little K&N pod filter, like for a carburetor only much smaller. Take a look at it once in a while to make sure it's not 'oiling up' but so far it hasn't. It's just zipped tied to a frame rail behind the right hand side cover.
 
Brian -

I was thinking about what to stick on the end of my oil tank breather hose (have a single Mikuni carb), and saw your post.

Curious about which K & N "pod filter" you mounted. Is it possibly on this page: the part # 61-1000 ? http://www.knfilters.com/vent.htm

or is it something else completely?

Appreciate it.

Keith
 
thanks for the info. I'll go ahead and get it from CNW. I'd rather support someone like that instead of an auto parts chain. And maybe I'll pick up one or two other things from him while i'm at it.

Keith
 
I have cable tied an empty beer can to the front of the battery tray and feed the breather into that. For some reason whenever a replacement can is needed there always seems to be one ready. :lol:
 
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