Where Does This End? My Credit Card is Taking a Beating!

The day he sells it is the day he stops spending money on it...
(Then three years later bumps into next owner who proudly boasts: 'You know that bike you sold me.. I've ridden it every weekend since and it hasn't cost me a single penny apart from petrol money!)
 
The day he sells it is the day he stops spending money on it...
(Then three years later bumps into next owner who proudly boasts: 'You know that bike you sold me.. I've ridden it every weekend since and it hasn't cost me a single penny apart from petrol money!)
This sort of happened to me
I sold a t140e to a bloke who came down from Leeds to buy it so I never expected to see it again
And around 17 years later my mate was at the ace cafe and recognising it he spoke with the owner and sent me a photo of it
The same bloke owns it that bought it from me
All he had ever done was routine maintenance maintenance !
It was never that bloody reliable when I owned it !!!!
 
...on women, wine and weed.

Well, maybe not now but that was how we viewed it in my other life.
Not wasted money really . Only your banker , parents or accountant will push you to other things with YOUR money . Still living the W.W. & W. previous lifestyle , upping the game with serious travel , fishing , motorcycling , exploring , abstract music , art ... you get it .
 
It's just part of life, we aren't meant to save money at all and spending on bikes is the best thing you can do to enjoy life, set up for yourself and always ready when you got to escape the pressures of life, wives and kids.
50 years of bliss for me never been without a bike in those 50 years and the swag is always at the ready for that quick getaway, for me well worth every cent I spend on my bikes just to have that outlet and I still have mates I grew up with and we still ride together.

Ashley
 
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Hi,
Probably a dumb question but how do you know the correct tension to put on spokes?
alan
The best way is with a spoke torque wrench.
That is how the expert wheel builders at Buchanans do it.
The problem with torqueing them by sound is that when torqued equally by the wrench the spokes all seem to hit different notes. I don't think the sound method is very accurate. Also, most wheels done that way tend to be at a very low tension , around 20-30 inch pounds. This makes a weak wheel.
The wheels should be at 55 to 60 inch pounds for full strength.

Glen
 
"The best way is with a spoke torque wrench."
No argument with me there Glen.
But its hard to justify this purchase for doing just one or two wheels.
If you don't have the confidence to do a spoked wheel, then leave it to the professionals, Like Buchanans.
Tom
 
"I don't think the sound method is very accurate"
Quote from Glen

I do. Ever tune a guitar to A440 using a tune fork. Standard tune of EADGBE or a piano?
Tension doesn't lie. I know a # from a flat and a spot on...


I think your logic is ....is it a high E or the base E.???? or just a buzz???


The front wheel on a 72 Combat or later has 4 seperate (10 of each)
Spoke sets. Out of 40.
and to complicate the mater even more, the disk side has heavier spokes than the other side.
each set is inner or outer with two different tones.
just my rambling on...


You were saying Glen....
 
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"The best way is with a spoke torque wrench."
No argument with me there Glen.
But its hard to justify this purchase for doing just one or two wheels.
If you don't have the confidence to do a spoked wheel, then leave it to the professionals, Like Buchanans.
Tom
I've lost track of the number of motorcycle and bicycle wheels I have laced and trued over the course of the last 45+ years. Always with a make shift indicator on the chassis.The truing stand was a luxury and it cost less than sending it to a "professional", not to mention the transit time.
 
I've done only 2 wheels, so far. Must admit, I get them trued and to the point all spokes sing, but I've not tried to get them singing the same note. How do you do that and at the same time, avoid the wheel getting out of true?
 
I've done only 2 wheels, so far. Must admit, I get them trued and to the point all spokes sing, but I've not tried to get them singing the same note. How do you do that and at the same time, avoid the wheel getting out of true?
Hey Mart,
You put it correctly. Make them to sing and close to the same note. Hard to do on a front wheel disk brake Commando because of the 4 different spoke sets and tensions. The spokes that cross should not touch each other. If they do then something is wrong. You also point out that getting the wheel true with very little wobble or hop takes priority and you have to live with the weld section. I use the same stand that Post #1 in the first picture uses and dial indicators.
Good stand also for ballancing new tires. My guitar analogy may have been over the top🤔
 
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