Visit to Colorado Norton Works 6-3

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Pulled our 5th wheel to Dolores, CO to hang with friends, do some river running, play tourist in Telluride, and attend the small and wonderful Dolores River Festival for music and food. Lots of fun. Managed to get away with a buddy to drop in on Matt and the crew at Colorado Norton Works. Though uninvited and unannounced we were treated to a tour of the current Commando-based projects. The quality and workmanship is astounding. Custom Integral Oil frames are built by a legendary flat-tracker (out of retirement for Matt's projects) duplicating original Norton geometry. Every piece utilized is the best available on the planet. There was a hammered High-Rider donor in a heap outside and a half a dozen cycles on hand complete and in process. The completed (and stunning) red cafe is currently available for sale. Or, simply drop off your donor, write a fat check and begin your 2 year wait. I have to say, though 40k for a motorcycle is FAR out of my league, we could clearly see the value in the end product. I bought a ball cap. If you come to the area bring your moto. The area is fantastic for riding. On the highway near Rico, I was REALLY wishing I'd brought the R1150R Rockster.... H

Visit to Colorado Norton Works 6-3


Visit to Colorado Norton Works 6-3


Visit to Colorado Norton Works 6-3


Visit to Colorado Norton Works 6-3


Visit to Colorado Norton Works 6-3


Visit to Colorado Norton Works 6-3
 
Hurts ones eyes and make one's wallet want to leap right out too. Did ya notice the red frame OIF in back ground for extra clean look to melt us? Might make for some tricky cable and wire routing though.
 
Late July (16th to the 4th August) I am touring the US and hoped to call in on CNW, good to hear they are ok with visitors though I will e-mail first to make sure. We are renting (say it quietly) HDs but I thought that's a better choice for the USA other than a Norton of course.

If there are any other Norton related activities or sites to visit then that would be cool to know

Thanks
 
I have often thought of taking a sabbatical and volunteering for Matt for year, as if he would actually have me.
 
Being a "New" old Norton owner, I found Colorado Norton Works very early in my searches for parts.

I've been talking to Matt and love the billet front end and am thinking about doing the conversion on my Roadster.

Parts are pricey, but wow! What a look :-)
 
M1Lover said:
Custom Integral Oil frames are built by a legendary flat-tracker (out of retirement for Matt's projects) duplicating original Norton geometry.
Anyone know who that is?
 
I think it MIGHT be the same guy Kenny Dreer used to use; sure looks exactly like a VR880 frame he's got for sale right now...

He ended up taking a beating on those, they weren't QUITE as good as sliced bread in the long run.
 
Hey,

The legendary frame builder is Jeff Cole. He is the one that created 'C & J' frame back in the 60's. Designed and built some of the most successful race frames in the industry. Some of them was of course for flat tracker Ron Wood.

From there Jeff went on to work with several national teams and when he starts listing the racers he built frames for you just have sit back and try to keep up. For awhile he worked with several Formula 1 teams and built those tubular frames.

He was also responsible for designing the Soft tail for H-D. Of course, Harley will tell you that 'they' did it but he was commissioned by them to develop it.

The CNW frame was developed from scratch and has zero relation to the VR880 frames that Kenny Dreer had made. Not sure who Kenny Dreer used to build his frames.

When I approached Jeff and told him about what I was after he got really excited as he has a soft spot for Norton's. Of course, since Jeff designed all those OIF frames back in the 60's and 70', he knew exactly how to make that work just right. Some of the things I required:

- Keep all the critical dimensions from the Commando frame. Such as the 850 steering neck angle, iso mount location, shock mount location etc.
- Wanted an oil capacity of 2.5-3 quarts
- Built in battery and electronics trays under the tank, next to the oil tank
- Chrome Moly steel
- All tig welding

I sent him a perfect, one owner low mileage (2500miles) Commando frame. He used this to build a frame jig in order to duplicate the dimensions needed. Once the jig was completed he built a prototype that he sent to me. I installed all the critical parts to make sure everything was just right.

He then started making them in batches of 3. As the frame is completed, it gets sent to Evan Wilcox that makes the alloy body work for the Cafe's. This way Evan will fit the fuel tanks to a specific frame. This gets tagged and makes a set. This ensures a perfect fit.

Fenders and tail sections are fitted here in the shop.

Since we were making this really nice frame, I wanted a swing arm to match. Jeff Cole makes that as well. This is an oval tube piece that is extremely rigid and uses MkIII style fittings

If anyone caught the Cafe Racer (season 3) on the Velocity channel it has a segment that shows Jeff making the CNW frames. He is a true artist, master designer and welder and an overall great guy.

I am working on a new section on the website that will detail much of what went into creating these Limited Series machines. It will show a step by step how they come together. Still a little ways out though

Matt / Colorado Norton Works

http://www.coloradonortonworks.com



PS. C & J as a company still exists but Jeff sold it many years ago and retired. In recent years C & J they ran into some trouble with quality control etc but Jeff was not involved with the company during this time.
 
grandpaul said:
I think it MIGHT be the same guy Kenny Dreer used to use; sure looks exactly like a VR880 frame he's got for sale right now...

He ended up taking a beating on those, they weren't QUITE as good as sliced bread in the long run.

Paul,

The CNW Cafe' frames have no relation to the VR 880 frames Kenny Dreer had made. Not sure who made those for Kenny. but if you put them side by side, you would see that they are two very different frames, especially looking at the welds, build quality and overall finish. The oil tank cavity is also quite unique with the consideration for different clean outs and allowing for the engine breather to hook up to it. What makes the CNW frame look unusual are the two trays ( one on each side of the oil tank ). One is for the small battery and the other for the bikes electronics.

Matt / Colorado Norton Works
 
Matt, THANKS for taking the time to clarify my "version" of the frame details you shared with us during our visit. My apologies for forcing you into posting here. I was busy taking images while you were having that discussion with Big Mike. Also, like a kid in an amazing candy store, I was VERY distracted with all the bright, shiny "objects" in your shop. Truth be told, as a motorcycle enthusiast for over 40 years, I was quite overwhelmed with what I was seeing.
You are to be congratulated for the Nortons you and your team produce for the world. Your work clearly demonstrates the passion and level of commitment you have for motorcycles. Few people on this planet possess that kind of drive for anything - at all. FWIW: Well done, sir.
Thank you again for the courtesy you extended to Mike and I during our visit. H
 
Hey,

Heres a look at the raw CNW Cafe' frame talked about above.

This is the First generation. The second series has about half a dozen small changes as it evolved a bit.

Visit to Colorado Norton Works 6-3


Here it is powder coated Red (plus clear) with the CNW front end installed

Visit to Colorado Norton Works 6-3


Matt / Colorado Norton Works

http://www.coloradonortonworks.com
 
I wanted a swing arm to match. Jeff Cole makes that as well. This is an oval tube piece that is extremely rigid and uses MkIII style fittings

Could this wonderfull item be retro fitted to an ordinary MK3?
Alcolombia
 
Matt
What did this new frame weigh in at? A stock commando frame is somewhere around 28 lbs. I’m just a bit curious as to what was the difference between chrome molly tubing and the stuff Norton cranked out in the evolution of the Commando during the 70’s. I realize that the 28 lbs. is not including the oil tank as this new frame has built in. I love the welding on this new frame. Very sweet.
Cheers
CNN
 
AlColombia said:
I wanted a swing arm to match. Jeff Cole makes that as well. This is an oval tube piece that is extremely rigid and uses MkIII style fittings

Could this wonderfull item be retro fitted to an ordinary MK3?
Alcolombia

It can be fitted to both a MkIII and a Pre MkIII cradle. I am using a Pre MkIII cradle on the Cafe'

At this time I have only produced as many swing arms as frames but I have thought about the idea of making some extra swing arms to offer outright.

So I am not sure at this time, but check in with me in a few months and I will let you know where it stands.

Visit to Colorado Norton Works 6-3


Matt / Colorado Norton Works
 
CanukNortonNut said:
Matt
What did this new frame weigh in at? A stock commando frame is somewhere around 28 lbs. I’m just a bit curious as to what was the difference between chrome molly tubing and the stuff Norton cranked out in the evolution of the Commando during the 70’s. I realize that the 28 lbs. is not including the oil tank as this new frame has built in. I love the welding on this new frame. Very sweet.
Cheers
CNN

CNN,

The frame weighs in at 26.3 lbs

The stock frame I weighed was 28.8. However you have to consider that an oil tank weighs 2 lbs and a battery tray 3 lbs.

So the total weight saving in my case is 7.5 lbs for that assembly

Matt / Colorado Norton Works
 
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