University education

Al you don't have to be a good tradesman to become a teacher, working at a Tec college (TAFE) for 31 years there are a lot of teachers who weren't good at their trade when working in the real world who become teachers and when it comes too hands on in the workshop some students were better than the bad teachers as they are working in the real world doing their apprenterships and using modern equipment in their daily work, some teachers go back on jobs to learn the latest to keep up with the times but a lot don't keep up with the times only what they read up on.
 
Most of my working life was spent working with trades people. I was paid to solve their problems. There is a common factor - many look upon education as an impost insread of an opportunity. The best engineers I have ever worked with were tradies who had furthered their education by achieving a degree. After I retired, I became a Quality Manager/Technical Writer with a small but excellent engineering company. I got them through to ISO9000 cerification. Often when you talk to a tradie, they use the phrase 'when I done my time' - wrong mindset and attitude. My brother is a boilermaker. He is horrified atthe thought of sitting for 3 hours in a cold classroom after working 8 hours. I becamr accustomed to it, and actually enjoyed it. I did not watch much TV., and it was usually only 2 nights per week, over 10 years.
 
marshg246 said:
There's an old saying: "Those that can't do, teach.'
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I have only ever had two teaching jobs and both were sessional. I taught Hazardous Substances Management at Holmesglen TAFE, and I taught Labor Management at Dookie Agricultural College. I enjoyed both jobs immensely. I spent a lot of my life leading laboratories in defence factories. Some things are always good for a laugh - I used to love an adrenalin rush - now I take beta-blockers. Motoprolol is excellent when you road race a motorcyle - it doubles the time you have to do things in corners - no adrenalin.
 
Some people study to become a better-paid something. I never did that. I only ever applied for jobs in places where I wanted to be. - Mostly remotely related to motorcycles. My job in the aircraft factory was the best, but an idiot arrived and I got his job elsewhere. It was the best opportunity ever. I rebuilt a laboratory and developed an automated system wich could do a full analysis of most metals in about 30 seconds. The last job I had was on contract as a project manager bringing hand grenades into production - it was a success. I really like achieving.
 
acotrel said:
Some people study to become a better-paid something. I never did that. I only ever applied for jobs in places where I wanted to be. - Mostly remotely related to motorcycles. My job in the aircraft factory was the best, but an idiot arrived and I got his job elsewhere. It was the best opportunity ever. I rebuilt a laboratory and developed an automated system wich could do a full analysis of most metals in about 30 seconds. The last job I had was on contract as a project manager bringing hand grenades into production - it was a success. I really like achieving.
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In really enjoyed my working life - it was always fun, but often stressful. - I am divorced and re-married. Is it any wonder ?
 
I suggest the main thing which is not well understood, is teaching is about leadership. During WW1 the American officers led from the front which is a good thing to do. However the Australians found American soldiers wandering around after their officers had been killed, and simply took them on board. Sir John Monash and others were mainly engineers in civilian life. They trained their men and found better ways to do the job - but they did not usually go where they could be killed. A teacher in a classroom needs to get the kids to go with them until they know the ropes - then send them on ahead.
In the two sessional teaching jobs I had, I used two approaches. In one I stood in front of the class and lectured. In the other I put discussion papers on a website, and ran the classes as discussion groups. The latter was more successful - we interacted and moved on together. In life, there are no facts - every fact is accompanied by a probability. Some people are basically insecure, so need the power structure.
 
University education might have been derailed long ago.



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University education


Lets hope we are not in WW3 by Christmas.
 
Time Warp said:
University education might have been derailed long ago.



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Lets hope we are not in WW3 by Christmas.
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I have very few worries in my life, however the likelihood of WW3 is a real worry. I suggest it would be very final. Survival instinct might be strnger than suicidal tendencies, but it would only take one idiot to bring us all undone. When Hitler was in the bunker, he left instructions to have the remainder of Germany to be destroyed. That seems to demonstrate a very strange mindset. If he was going, he wanted nobody left behind to enjoy living. He was definitely a 'do or die' kind of guy with strange priorities.
 
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Once that Woke crap gets into your You Tube main page it generates more.
The university trained running schools ?
Let's go to the USA, this was one of the first video's on the recommended page and never saw that (the content) coming.



 
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baz said:
The old saying I heard was "those that can do"
"Those that can't teach" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Nope: It was not written without punctuation and not as two standalone sentences. It is a single, punctuated sentence. The version I've always heard is also a single sentence as explained below.


“Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach.”
— George Bernard Shaw
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‘Those who can’t do, teach’ is a truncation of the line ‘Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach’ from George Bernard Shaw’s 1905 stage play Man and Superman. Over a century later, and the derogatory phrase oft slung at educators stubbornly persists.'
 
marshg246 said:
Nope: It was not written without punctuation and not as two standalone sentences. It is a single, punctuated sentence. The version I've always heard is also a single sentence as explained below.



‘Those who can’t do, teach’ is a truncation of the line ‘Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach’ from George Bernard Shaw’s 1905 stage play Man and Superman. Over a century later, and the derogatory phrase oft slung at educators stubbornly persists.'
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I apologize for being so pedantic and stand corrected
 

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