TVS 961 RECALL....

Regardless of the issue, it's still an embarrassment. Especially with the "redesign" and "safety" of all the parts they were espousing

We are not alone.!!!!!!

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Motorcycle recalls​

Products placed on the market in the EU are subject to general safety requirements. These requirements are included in the General Product Safety Directive 2001/95/EC (GPSD) which aims at ensuring that only safe consumer products are sold in the EU.

The European Commissions’ Rapid Alert System (RAPEX) enables the quick exchange of information about dangerous non-food products posing a risk to health and safety of consumers.

FEMA will publish recalls from the RAPEX reports that are of concern to motorcyclists, such as recalled motorcycles or motorcycle clothing.

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2025

Week 14 – Ducati – Panigale V4. Production dates: 1 June 2024 – 10 January 2025. The rear brake hose, between the ABS (Anti-lock Braking System) control unit and the rear brake calliper, can be damaged by heat. This can lead to a sudden loss of braking power in the rear wheel brake, increasing the risk of accident and injuries. Click here for the original listing.

Week 13 – BMW Motorrad – R 1300 GS, R 1300 GS Adventure, R12, R12 nineT, R12 nineT A2. Production dates: 30 May 2022 – 18 October 2024. Humidity can penetrate the right-hand combined switch and lead to ignition failures such as stalling or delayed light functions’ failure. This increases the risk of accidents and injuries. Click here for the original listing.

Week 13 – Yamaha – MT-07, Ténéré 700, Tracer 7, XSR700. Production dates: 1 December 2022 – 26 October 2024. Due to the corrosion inhibitor reacting with worn friction plate material, a viscous substance can form with the heat. This can lead the clutch to fail to disengage (even when the lever is pulled) causing it to drag. The vehicle can unexpectedly move off with a gear engaged, even with the clutch pulled in, increasing the risk of injury. Click here for the original listing.

Week 13 – Pirelli, Metzeler – Motorcycle tyre Scorpion Trail II (Pirelli), Tourance Next (Metzeler), Tourance Next II (Metzeler). Production dates: 30 November 2016 – 30 September 2024. EC-type approval/model: E3-75R -002028 Ext. 2 (Tourance Next), E3-75R -002028 Ext. 3 (Scorpion Trail II), E4-75R -0015919 (Tourance Next II), E4-75R -0017481 (Tourance Next II). The tyres can suffer from irregular wear, which can cause the tyre’s cords to fail. This can lead the tyres’ tread to become detached and/or to a sudden loss of air pressure. This can result in a loss of motorcycle control while riding, increasing the risk of accidents and injuries. Click here for the original listing.

Week 11 – Honda – CBR650R & CB650R. Production dates: 11 January 2024 – 8 April 2024. The bolt and nut on the gearshift arm may come loose, leading the gearshift lever to become impossible to operate. This can provoke a loss of motorcycle’s control, increasing the risk of accident and injuries for the rider. Click here for the original listing.

Week 11 – Gasgas – Model: 125, 150, 250, 300, 350, 450, 500, EC, ES, EW, EX, GG, MC. Production dates: 2022 – 2025. Irregularities in the cast structure of the brake caliper can cause it to fail. This may lead to a reduced service brake performance, increasing the risk of accident and injuries. Click here for the original listing.

Week 10 – Husqvarna – EC-type approval/model: 125, 150, 250, 300, 350, 450, 501, FC, FE, FX, HQV, TC, TE, TX, e1*168/2013*00023*03 (HQV 4T FE 250/350/450/501 2022/23), e1*168/2013*00023*04 (HQV 4T FE 250/350/450/501 2024), e1*168/2013*00051*03 (HQV 2T TE 150/250/300 2022/23), e1*168/2013*00051*04 (HQV 2T TE 150/250/300 2024). Production dates: 2022-2024. Irregularities in the cast structure of the brake caliper can cause it to fail. This may lead to a reduced service brake performance, increasing the risk of accident and injuries. Click here for the original listing.

Week 7 – CF MOTO – 650MT & 700 CL-X Heritage. Production dates: 2022. Cracks can form in the weld seam of the gear change shaft. This can prevent a change of gear, leading to the loss of control over the motorcycle, increasing the risk of accident and injuries. Click here for the original listing.

Week 5 – BMW – S1000RR, HP4, HP4 Race, M1000RR, M1000R, M1000XR, S1000R, S1000XR. Production dates: 31 August 2009 – 17 October 2024. The screw connection of the oil filter may become detached at high engine speeds (>= 12,500 rpm), leading to an oil leak from the oil filter. This can result in oil deposits onto the road, creating slippery sections, increasing the risk of accidents and injuries especially for two-wheeled vehicles. Click here for the original listing.

Week 2 – Triumph – Tiger 1200 GT, Tiger 1200 GT Pro, Tiger 1200 GT Explorer. Production dates: 17 August 2021 – 12 October 2024. Tyre can wear unevenly, compromising the zero-degree reinforcement. This can lead the tread to become partially detached and/or suffer a sudden loss of air pressure, which can cause the loss of control of the vehicle and increase the risk of accident and injuries. Click here for the original listing.

Week 2 – Triumph – TF250-X. Production dates: 20 July 2023 – 16 August 2024. Product description: Motorcycle designed exclusively for closed course competition use only – motocross. The switchcube (which includes buttons for use by the operator to start and stop the engine) is not stable in specific conditions (exposure to brake fluid & when exposed to high pressure water), and potentially could self start. The unexpected start of the motorcycle can lead to accidents. Click here for the original listing.

Week 2 – Avon/Dunlop – Several models of motorcycle tyres. Production dates: 20 October 2024 – 9 November 2024. A contamination located under the tread can lead to a lower tread adhesion and to tread separation. This can cause the loss of control of the motorcycle, increasing the risk of accidents and injuries. Click here for the original listing.

For as little of bikes Norton has now made, it would be wise of them to check all the bikes under their manufacture.
If someone gets hurt or worse, you know I’ll come back on Norton.

A long long time ago in a country far away ( Canada ) there was heads up bout starter ringear issues , came from a guy & his dad who reverse engineered the bike , his dad visted the Donnington factory a few times , I saw him there once myself .
I gave their contact details to couple of quality control guys from TVS some 4 yrs ago , & said along with that guy with the dominator in New Zealand ( ian Wilson )& said u really need to have a chat with them , no contact was ever made to the Canadian guys , & believe ian Wilson’s emails & suggestions were ignored by SS
Here’s a simple sketch for you engineering chaps from you know who ,well u do if u been on here a while .

BLIGHTYBRIT/SF said:

A long long time ago in a country far away ( Canada ) there was heads up bout starter ringear issues , came from a guy & his dad who reverse engineered the bike , his dad visted the Donnington factory a few times , I saw him there once myself .
I gave their contact details to couple of quality control guys from TVS some 4 yrs ago , & said along with that guy with the dominator in New Zealand ( ian Wilson )& said u really need to have a chat with them , no contact was ever made to the Canadian guys , & believe ian Wilson’s emails & suggestions were ignored by SS
Here’s a simple sketch for you engineering chaps from you know who ,well u do if u been on here a while .View attachment 119455

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I love this stuff.
Keep it coming.

Recalls happen.

Norton will probably be following a GDPR protocol that is mandatory.

I will bet all owners will be taken care of.

BLIGHTYBRIT/SF said:

A long long time ago in a country far away ( Canada ) there was heads up bout starter ringear issues , came from a guy & his dad who reverse engineered the bike , his dad visted the Donnington factory a few times , I saw him there once myself .
I gave their contact details to couple of quality control guys from TVS some 4 yrs ago , & said along with that guy with the dominator in New Zealand ( ian Wilson )& said u really need to have a chat with them , no contact was ever made to the Canadian guys , & believe ian Wilson’s emails & suggestions were ignored by SS
Here’s a simple sketch for you engineering chaps from you know who ,well u do if u been on here a while .View attachment 119455

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To be honest Ive never seen them as per that drawing, only ever seen them as this image here (sorry its blurry, its a screen grab from a video). The recall states thread lock not curing. So either it is an issue with the thread lock, or maybe the anti corrosion fluid wasnt cleaned from the bolts prior to applying thread lock, imo.

Bloody glue! First there was Musk's Swasticar (sorry- Cybertruck) and now this.
People seem to have lost the art of making things stick together well!

quality control issue, again.

So many negative people here. Be thankful they have the guts to call us - it IS a life saver after all.

Just called my supplying dealer and it is not all bikes (early vin numbers). I won't quote in case I quote incorrectly.

Forums are their own worst enemy, too many people who KNOW best!

wildrover said:

So many negative people here. Be thankful they have the guts to call us - it IS a life saver after all.

Just called my supplying dealer and it is not all bikes (early vin numbers). I won't quote in case I quote incorrectly.

Forums are their own worst enemy, too many people who KNOW best!

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I am intrigued.

This thread has been very balanced indeed compared to the FB discussion thus far.

Which posts specifically are overly negative in your opinion ?

wildrover said:

So many negative people here. Be thankful they have the guts to call us - it IS a life saver after all.

Just called my supplying dealer and it is not all bikes (early vin numbers). I won't quote in case I quote incorrectly.

Forums are their own worst enemy, too many people who KNOW best!

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7 posts in 12 years - you must subscribe to the advice "if you've nothing good to say, say nothing at all!"

FYI: I contacted Norton this morning and this is part of the message I received:

At this time, we can confirm that a "do not ride" notice is in place for certain Commandos. However, please note that this does not automatically mean your Commando 961 is affected. If your Commando is impacted, you will receive written communication from us directly with full details and next steps.

In the meantime, if your bike was built between 7th June 2021 and 12th February 2025, we kindly ask that you do not ride it until you've received official confirmation from us.

wildrover said:

FYI: I contacted Norton this morning and this is part of the message I received:

At this time, we can confirm that a "do not ride" notice is in place for certain Commandos. However, please note that this does not automatically mean your Commando 961 is affected. If your Commando is impacted, you will receive written communication from us directly with full details and next steps.

In the meantime, if your bike was built between 7th June 2021 and 12th February 2025, we kindly ask that you do not ride it until you've received official confirmation from us.

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Are they also sending confirmation for your bike built during this period is not affected be the recall?
The mail service, after all, is absolutely reliable!

robs ss said:

Are they also sending confirmation for your bike built during this period is not affected be the recall?
The mail service, after all, is absolutely reliable!

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Agreed, this is quite an important point. I hope that Norton realise this.

wildrover said:

So many negative people here. Be thankful they have the guts to call us - it IS a life saver after all.

Just called my supplying dealer and it is not all bikes (early vin numbers). I won't quote in case I quote incorrectly.

Forums are their own worst enemy, too many people who KNOW best!

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Guts? More like their duty to do so to prevent being held responsible for a riders death.

NorTriDuc said:

Guts? More like their duty to do so to prevent being held responsible for a riders death.

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Especially after the "hey we fixed everything that was wrong with the previous version and why you had to wait years for the same bike" Not being negative but they oversold it and then with underwhelming sales to the point they are almost giving them away then a recall doesn't inspire confidence for a fence sitting purchaser.

It will be interesting to see the VIN range for the recall. Supposedly the dealers have the range of number so it will come out shortly. But really how many bikes did they actually sell and are within the recall range? (manufactured between June 7, 2021, and February 12, 2025 is the date range???) This sure seems like it touches all of them sold

City Garage said:

Especially after the "hey we fixed everything that was wrong with the previous version and why you had to wait years for the same bike" Not being negative but they oversold it and then with underwhelming sales to the point they are almost giving them away then a recall doesn't inspire confidence for a fence sitting purchaser.

It will be interesting to see the VIN range for the recall. Supposedly the dealers have the range of number so it will come out shortly. But really how many bikes did they actually sell and are within the recall range? (manufactured between June 7, 2021, and February 12, 2025 is the date range???) This sure seems like it touches all of them sold

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One YT vid said its up to VIN number in the 700s.. given some test / mule bikes that were never sold, then its got to be 600 plus.. assuming all bikes in the VIN number range are impacted.

To date, the issues I’m aware of are….
Valve cover gasket leaks.
Starter gasket leaks.
Top yolk that was needed to be removed to remove fuel tank.
No swing arm bobbins.
Now the current recall.

These are all simple issues that should have never happened, especially when they claimed they addressed 30% plus of the Donington era bikes.
5 years into TVS ownership, millions of dollars invested, “state of the art” facility, and even the basic stuff gets over looked? Why?

I’m still disappointed you don’t get a carbon fiber rear mudguard on a “ premium bike”.

NorTriDuc said:

To date, the issues I’m aware of are….
Valve cover gasket leaks.
Starter gasket leaks.
Top yolk that was needed to be removed to remove fuel tank.
No swing arm bobbins.
Now the current recall.

These are all simple issues that should have never happened, especially when they claimed they addressed 30% plus of the Donington era bikes.
5 years into TVS ownership, millions of dollars invested, “state of the art” facility, and even the basic stuff gets over looked? Why?

I’m still disappointed you don’t get a carbon fiber rear mudguard on a “ premium bike”.

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Lucky you never had the opportunity to buy one of these ‘basket cases’ then mate - phewwww!!!