TRI SPARK vs. PAZON (2009)

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I have had Trispark on my 850 for a long time . the first two failed and were replaced promptly , no questions , the later version has fixed the problem , I have put many miles on it now , some very long rides on very hot days and it is faultless , Starting , idle & performance all excellent .
Pazon reviews seem good to . Jim comstock was doing a crank fired EI , not sure if he still is . worth a look .
Trisparks service is excellent & so is the latest version of the ignition . I highly recommend them .
 
RE the last few posts...as stated the only answer is to replace the part and see if that was the problem , when I had trouble with the earlier ones Trispark sent a replacement unit out promptly no questions , you can't beat that kind of service [ not unlike CNW ] that is why I stuck with them & it paid off , for me & them .
 
Found out my issue with the Pazon was due to a failure of the black box. Not sure what that means but there is a free replacement on the way.

Scott
 
On the TriSpark failures did you do the two tests listed in the owners manual?
Test one confirms if the amplifier is sparking the plugs.
Test two confirms if the rotor magnet is triggering the inductor to spark when it's supposed to.
Which failed or both?
 
I have a Pazon Altair on my mk3, it was not easy to sufiently center the rotor on the cam end, if it jumps it d'oest work correctly, once perfect, it works as it should, i can't say how long Will it last yet, only 800 km since instal·lacions.

Start is easy, idle at 1000 rpm and acceleration with the new premiers... Great!
 
If neither work out, then you can ignition spark 'improvers' that work with points turning them into simple low voltage switches so there is even less maintenance as they do not burn out.
 
NorCat said:
I have a Pazon Altair on my mk3, it was not easy to sufiently center the rotor on the cam end, if it jumps it d'oest work correctly, once perfect, it works as it should, i can't say how long Will it last yet, only 800 km since instal·lacions.
Start is easy, idle at 1000 rpm and acceleration with the new premiers... Great!
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Same here, on the set up and the performance.
I see on the Pazon website that they have a revised rotor arrangement (wings instead of slots) on the latest version - presumably to make the set up less sensitive.
 
Hi All,

I know from experience that whatever the system you use (Boyer, Tri-S, Pazon ...), it is very important to insulate the coil(s) from heat, for instance using the heat sink insulator that some of them provide.

The only issue I've had with my Pazon Sure Fire in more than 15 000 miles is a coil failure due to poor heat insulation.

And their customer service is top class.

Laurent
 
Madnorton said:
If neither work out, then you can ignition spark 'improvers' that work with points turning them into simple low voltage switches so there is even less maintenance as they do not burn out.
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I used one of these years ago on a Z1-B. Points lasted forever. Does anyone still make these? A Google search was not successful-Thanks
 
eskasteve said:
Madnorton said:
If neither work out, then you can ignition spark 'improvers' that work with points turning them into simple low voltage switches so there is even less maintenance as they do not burn out.
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I used one of these years ago on a Z1-B. Points lasted forever. Does anyone still make these? A Google search was not successful-Thanks
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Accel used to make an ignition amplifier with two channels that worked with points. I used one on a Norton race bike for a while, with an Alloy Tech ball bearing breaker plate using Bendix points (no mechanical advance) in place of the stock points, and two K-mart automotive coils. If you're looking for one, I might still have one in a box somewhere. Accel hasn't made them for years. There were other manufacturers of similar units back in the '70s, but I don't know if anyone still makes them.

Ken
 
And if anyone is still interested in an electronic ignition that can be triggered by the stock points, MSD still makes their MC3 box, that will work from a variety of inputs, including stock points, and has two output channels, so can be used with the Norton points. Probably kind of pricey, though, at $870 :shock:

http://www.msdpowersports.com/

Ken
 
Just to kinda change the subject, I have an Old Britts Power Arc system. It's dead-nuts reliable, offers two power curves, and if you can find TDC, a piece of cake to install and tune. All top-quality components.
 
Has anyone has luck running a tri-spark or Pazon, or any other electronic ignition w/o a battery?
Running a battery eliminator, which I like, and points....Before anyone says it, I know I should put battery on it....I may well do that. Currently, tho I like the simplicity. It is also a benefit if a total rewire of the bike is not needed, although I have the material to do so.
I am starting to doubt the AAU function. I lubed it last time the timing cover was off, but I am never 100% sure its working. SO I started looking into the electric ignitions.

Thanks
John
 
I have a Trispark & my battery is knackered , always dead flat , starts first or second kick every time .
 
eskasteve said:
Madnorton said:
If neither work out, then you can ignition spark 'improvers' that work with points turning them into simple low voltage switches so there is even less maintenance as they do not burn out.
Click to expand...
I used one of these years ago on a Z1-B. Points lasted forever. Does anyone still make these? A Google search was not successful-Thanks
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Trandenser II Electronic Ignition System (replaces PointSaver™ ignition modules)

http://www.kirkengines.com/

"It is basically a transistor. Instead of putting all the amperage through the points, the transistor takes over the job of collapsing the field and instead you just run a few milliamps through the points which now have the single job of telling the transistor when to open and close. By reducing the amperage at the points by a factor of thousands, it prevents arcing and corrosion thus "saving" the points"

Is this what you meant by "spark improvers"?

All copy is cut and pasted from other sites....
 
laurentdom said:
Hi All,

I know from experience that whatever the system you use (Boyer, Tri-S, Pazon ...), it is very important to insulate the coil(s) from heat, for instance using the heat sink insulator that some of them provide.

The only issue I've had with my Pazon Sure Fire in more than 15 000 miles is a coil failure due to poor heat insulation.

And their customer service is top class.

Laurent
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A minor nit pick here - for clarity's sake it's important to note that the heat sink is intended to conduct heat away from the coils, not to insulate them. It's the exact opposite.
/Steve.
 
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