Tesla AI Kills Two Motorcyclists

TomU

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I live in Oxford which is a big university city with international students.

We see it ALL THE TIME… young students just walk into the road, face in their phone, headphones on. Almost cut off from the world around them!

Here‘s the real problem IMO… instead of addressing this, government will protect against it. So, as AI gets better, it will be seen as the solution to protect. And human drivers will therefore be seen as the problem that causes the danger (rather than the brain dead phone droids). And that will become part of the ‘reason’ for autonomous vehicles…

I prefer Darwinism… allow things to continue for long enough and the phone droid gene will become eradicated naturally (via RTAs), thus greatly improving the human gene pool …
I totally agree. 85% of people drive with their heads up their ass. The emerging solution will be to take the human element out of the equation.

An easier solution would be to outlaw automatic transmissions
 

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And while we're at it, outlaw all the techno gadgetry as well. Seems like you have to go to the home page then scroll down to the entertainment section then select the radio tab than do 4 or 5 more steps just to operate the radio.
 
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Thanks for that - interesting.
My car also has explosive charges and cables at the bonnet hinges (rear corners).
Apparently if the "system" detects that a collision with a pedestrian is inevitable, the charges detonate, throwing the back of the bonnet upward to cushion the collision for the pedestrian.
I hope there is never a false alarm on this feature!
Cheers
 

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Thanks for that - interesting.
My car also has explosive charges and cables at the bonnet hinges (rear corners).
Apparently if the "system" detects that a collision with a pedestrian is inevitable, the charges detonate, throwing the back of the bonnet upward to cushion the collision for the pedestrian.
I hope there is never a false alarm on this feature!
Cheers
That sounds absolutely absurd.

So glad I'm keeping my 2004 Chevy truck...
 
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I once owned, for a short time, a VW Tiguan with automatic cruise control. I was in a dual carriageway cruise locked on 70 and I could see a lorry ahead of me and so realising I would end up slowing down for it I indicated right to overtake it. At that time a car immediately ahead of me indicated right to turn off into another road. I could see there was no danger as it was in the third lane and slowing down to stop and wait for oncoming traffic to clear. However my car decided that because I was signalling right and that there was another car on my right hand side it needed to perform an emergency stop to avoid that car - despite it not being in the same lane.

Wtf! I really wasn’t expecting that to happen - neither did the BMW and Merc who were also in my lane behind me, as they also needed to take avoiding action, after all who expects a car to suddenly do an emergency stop on a clear road ahead?

I kept the Tiguan for about another week before getting rid of it - I want to be in control
 

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Thanks for that - interesting.
My car also has explosive charges and cables at the bonnet hinges (rear corners).
Apparently if the "system" detects that a collision with a pedestrian is inevitable, the charges detonate, throwing the back of the bonnet upward to cushion the collision for the pedestrian.
I hope there is never a false alarm on this feature!
Cheers
What car, Ford?
 
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If a motorcycle was fitted with a learning machine, we could get Valentino Rossi to ride it and train it, then use it to train other riders. We might all become world champions. When Mike Hailwood was learning to race, his daddy bought him a Mondial 250, what at the time was the top 250 and had been developed by being raced by top riders. The rider adjusts to the bike, a good bike makes a good rider. When I learned to race, I learned how to avoid crashing, so I am not a top rider. I just survive and go fast by chance.
I once rode a very original 500cc Manx. If I had started racing with that, I would have been in A grade very quickly. They shape the way you ride. A Triton is never as good. But look at their development history.
When I was a kid, a piston for a 500cc Manx cost 30 pounds, when I was earning 10 pounds per week.
With an AI equipped bike, you would not need to buy it. All you would need to do would be purchase some rides on it.
Same with the Manx, if you road race, you should buy a ride on one. They are bit different.
 

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All the more reason to add a rear camera…I was smashed from the rear from a drunk “mom” with 3 small children in a station wagon back in ‘74 in my brand new Norton…a week old with 400 miles…total loss…in the hospital for 2 weeks…knee surgery and road rash all over…and now with AI…even more reason for the camera…
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