Riding the P11 rattler around the block.

This video was a sound test ride to see if I got the setup close with a pair of DGI Mic Mini Tx wireless microphones for use playing with video capture using a DGI Action 5 Pro camera. The closest good ride to shoot video of is 70 miles away. Not in the mood for doing that today. Hope to get some video riding the winding forested backroads this summer. Also hope I keep the rubber side down when doing it.

What you may note is my exhaust on the throttle does not sound like a Norton with a pair of peashooters. It may sound like other Norton 750's with 2 into 1 exhaust, which is what I have. It is a Schwany modified Bub pipe, nothing exotic like a Maney pipe. The exotic part is the guy riding it. Or maybe that should be psychotic. lol

Also my idle is a lopey thing when the engine is not fully warmed up. Norton 2S cam advanced 2 degrees with a JS 2 degree stepped cam key. I know it can't possibly make a difference especially if you've never tried one with a 2S cam in my engine. Most of the rattle is either piston slap, ringing tappets, or my rod big ends. I run the 2S with .010 Int .010 Ext lash, so it is always noisy. Speed limit is 25mph. I think I may have tapped 60 mph totally by accident of course.



And the RGM clutch makes a bunch of noise when the engine is idling lowish.

How do you think it sounds compared to real life? I always think my bikes sound terrible on video, even if I like the way they sound in real life.

It's closer to reality with the camera in a ches harness using the remote microphones with deadcats on them to kill the wind noise. In real life my exhaust is very different from a typical Norton and louder than it is with the deadcats. It basically sounds the same as a Maney exhaust on a well tuned 750. I had the camera on a bar mount initially without the remote mics and the in-camera mic pics up all kinds of clanging and clacking I never hear in my helmet and severely distorts the engine sound using the wind suppression features. Sounds like I'm riding a whiny electric car with valve train clatter and a bad differential. So weird I would never post it on the interweb. I figured this video was good enough to post since I'm not trying to sell parts or anything else.

Anywho, the short answer is using just the camera without the remote mics it can sound like the engine is ready to come apart.

Your bike sounds (and looks) sweet. What’s the green device on the (brake?) cable?

cliffa said:

Your bike sounds (and looks) sweet. What’s the green device on the (brake?) cable?

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Thanks for the complement. Unusual. Members here are usually trying to tell me what I'm doing that is wrong or what won't work. lol

It's quick, handles, stops well enough, and looks good in a funky old motorcycle way doing it.

The green thing is a dual brake cable splitter for the big 4LS drum on front. Wish I'd never put that brake on the bike, but it does work well enough and the weight helps keep the front end down when accelerating hard. Dual discs would be an safer improvement. However, the 4LS is leaps and bounds better than the little 7" SLS drum brake that came stock on a P11. That little brake was inadequate and dangerous for me on the street.

You can tell on video when a bike has some balls and this one does.

Peter Restaino said:

You can tell on video when a bike has some balls and this one does.

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Yeah it does have some get it done. Pretty sure it makes more HP much sooner than a stock P11.

Schwany said:

Thanks for the complement. Unusual. Members here are usually trying to tell me what I'm doing that is wrong or what won't work. lol

It's quick, handles, stops well enough, and looks good in a funky old motorcycle way doing it.

The green thing is a dual brake cable splitter for the big 4LS drum on front. Wish I'd never put that brake on the bike, but it does work well enough and the weight helps keep the front end down when accelerating hard. Dual discs would be an safer improvement. However, the 4LS is leaps and bounds better than the little 7" SLS drum brake that came stock on a P11. That little brake was inadequate and dangerous for me on the street.

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Thanks for asking, I was going to ask the same question. It's exactly what I thought it was. What is the front 4 leading shoe brake from? Motto Guzzi? This was my set up on a cafe featherbed I built. Worked damn well.

jerrykap said:

Thanks for asking, I was going to ask the same question. It's exactly what I thought it was. What is the front 4 leading shoe brake from? Motto Guzzi? This was my set up on a cafe featherbed I built. Worked damn well.

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Jerry,

The 4LS is a CRS 230mm Ceriani copy. The forks are also CRS GP35 Ceriani copies, but they have something close to Showa valving with compression and rebound damping as well at adjustable spring pre-load. The shocks are also CRS shocks. The suspension is a bit track stiff, but sure makes braking late and going through turns easy. CRS Cafe Racer Suspension is no longer making and selling parts unfortunately. The business was in Hungary. I think most riders accustomed to drum brakes would find my 4LS perfect, but I got spoiled by modern technology and know what good motorcycle brakes are like.

I need to blow the dust out of them. I heard them squeal in the video coming up to that stop light. I did not hear it in my helmet though.

Once upon a time I had Suzuki GT750 parts bike with a 4LS drum on the front. Kind of wish I had kept it now, but in those days nobody cared! I just thought it looked like a lot of work to keep properly adjusted what with 2 cables and all those linkages.

Junglebiker said:

Once upon a time I had Suzuki GT750 parts bike with a 4LS drum on the front. Kind of wish I had kept it now, but in those days nobody cared! I just thought it looked like a lot of work to keep properly adjusted what with 2 cables and all those linkages.

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Not hard, just fiddly and it takes a bit to dial everything in. New brake shoes can kill ya in the wet on a 230mm 4LS. Got to put up with the time it takes to bed them in, or they can lock up for less than a second entering a turn hot and put you in a low side slide. Done it, so not making it up. My fix was never ride in the wet again. Also have no clue where I could get new shoes if I ever wore mine out.

Discs are better, lighter, and there is no shortage of spares available. You aren't missing a thing other than you'd be able to sell the lump of a brake for more than you paid for it now.

Junglebiker said:

Once upon a time I had Suzuki GT750 parts bike with a 4LS drum on the front. Kind of wish I had kept it now, but in those days nobody cared! I just thought it looked like a lot of work to keep properly adjusted what with 2 cables and all those linkages.

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Those brakes now go for "Good Coin" ( I believe that's an American term) or "Loadsamoney" in proper Kings English.