rear wheel hub, is this right?

Orsonoce · May 6, 2012

Hi,
just changed all bearings, I find myself with the axle (62067) of the drive side that moves quite a bit. all seems to be fitted properly. is this right?

Torontonian · May 6, 2012

Yep looks good. Make sure the big circlip for that double-row bearing is fully home in it's groove. It has been known to come out of place.That looks like a heap o' grease.

Orsonoce · May 6, 2012

thanks a lot.

rpatton · May 7, 2012

It's possible to go overboard with the grease.

"Use sealed wheel bearings --grease vapor can contaminate linings. Once contaminated, they never recover."

"Lubricate backing plate components SPARINGLY with a 500F. + degree grease, such as Sta-Lube Sta-Plex Extreme Pressure, available at NAPA. Liberally lube parts and assemble. Disassemble and carefully remove all excess grease."

http://www.vintagebrake.com/tips.htm

Orsonoce · May 7, 2012

good hint...

actually, more questions: is the thing shown in the pic below the Spacer Speedo Gearbox (NM13270) (number 34 here http://www.oldbritts.com/1972_g17.html)??
and does it go where I am putting it? the book and spare parts list are far from being clear there.

And finally, where does number 21 (washer flat) go? no way it can fit where it is pictured...

appreciate your support. BTW have put the wheel back together today, and ...it does not turn !! - which is no good for a wheel... starting again from scratch.

and here my babe today - work in progress as you can tell.

DogT · May 7, 2012

This may or may not help, because I have a 69/70 rear wheel without the cush drive. The piece in your picture in your fingers is the top hat washer that goes into the speedo gearbox. It's sort of a spacer. When I put my wheel together, I had the bearing spacer, item 29 reversed (it's different on the 69/70). I don't know if that may be the problem on your newer rear assembly, but it may be worth a look. My problem was the spacer has shoulders, short and long, and it is reverse of what one may think, the double bearing goes on the short shoulder and the single bearing goes on the long shoulder. Again, I'm not sure this has anything to do with your newer rear assembly, but it may be worth a look. When I had mine wrong, I would tighten the axle and everything would bind.

Dave
69S

Guido · May 7, 2012

On that dummy axle you have 4 things that are installed in this order, 1 washer, dummy axle, felt ring, felt retaining washer and then the bearing is pressed into place.
It is not uncommon the displace the felt retaining washer while driving in the bearing if you do it by pounding with a drift punch.
The binding is more than likely in the wheel hub bearings.

http://www.oldbritts.com/1972_g17.html

Torontonian · May 7, 2012

Swimming in grease again. It should be dryish on the speedometer drive engagement piece. Save the grease for the actual speedo drive gearbox ,they are pricey and do not tollerate neglectful greasing interval times.The box tabs fit into the grease filled slots we see in the photo. The dummy axle tightens up first on swingarm,then fit the wheel with axle,drive box and long spacer.

Orsonoce · May 8, 2012

DogT said:
This may or may not help, because I have a 69/70 rear wheel without the cush drive. The piece in your picture in your fingers is the top hat washer that goes into the speedo gearbox. It's sort of a spacer. When I put my wheel together, I had the bearing spacer, item 29 reversed (it's different on the 69/70). I don't know if that may be the problem on your newer rear assembly, but it may be worth a look. My problem was the spacer has shoulders, short and long, and it is reverse of what one may think, the double bearing goes on the short shoulder and the single bearing goes on the long shoulder. Again, I'm not sure this has anything to do with your newer rear assembly, but it may be worth a look. When I had mine wrong, I would tighten the axle and everything would bind.

Dave
69S

hey Dave,
thanks, hopefully that should be correct ( rear-wheel-bearing-spacer-t13061.html ) but will give a second look.
I reckon the problem is elsewhere. My first thoughts are that the bearings are not seated properly. I guess the bearing spacer should turn together with the bearings, at the moment that is not the case.

BTW the piece in my finger is a sort of a spacer, but it cannot go INTO the speedo gearbox (does not fit), only place where it could go is where I am showing, between the speedo gearbox and the speedo drive engagement piece (inside) ... Although the spare parts breakdown seems to indicate, like you say, that is goes INTO the speedo gearbox, on the long spacer side.

Orsonoce · May 8, 2012

Guido said:
On that dummy axle you have 4 things that are installed in this order, 1 washer, dummy axle, felt ring, felt retaining washer and then the bearing is pressed into place.
It is not uncommon the displace the felt retaining washer while driving in the bearing if you do it by pounding with a drift punch.
The binding is more than likely in the wheel hub bearings.

http://www.oldbritts.com/1972_g17.html

Guido, then the washer (21) does not exist? (I did not have one fitted when took the bike apart).

Orsonoce · May 10, 2012

so, I called Mick (hemmings) today, and he confirmed: the piece in my hand is the speedo drive spacer and it does go where I think it goes: between the speedo drive and the lockring. so I gues it's all good.
Will try this next week end to re-assemble everything. I have the impression I did not seat the bearings correctly pushing them inside enough. let's see...

Torontonian · May 10, 2012

The double-row bearing must be fully home before you fit the circlip in it's slot fully home too.Tap that circlip into place with a light punch-tap if the slot a tad on the thin side of fitting as it is a tight fit machined groove , that's why several owners have reported the circlip popping out and the bearing drifting subsequently.

napanorton · May 11, 2012

I don't know if this will help, but it's what I did
http://www.doov.com/apps/nortoncomp...y&catid=14:h-brakes-wheels-and-tyres&Itemid=9

Orsonoce · May 11, 2012

hey napanorton, I have actually followed your instructions! good stuff you're doing on that site. really helpful!

Norton-Villier · May 12, 2012

+ 1 Keep it going Its a time saver

Phil

rear wheel hub, is this right?

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