REAR SHOCK UPGRADE

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mschmitz57 said:
NJB shocks I tried rubbed the chain guard due to spring pre-load adjuster position.

I have the NJB shocks on mine. With a washer at the bottom bolt and the shocks on the middle (or top) position this problem can be resolved.
The shocks are good - no problem yet. But next time I would try the Hagons, because they are the best Girling replicas.

Ralf
 
Towner said:
mschmitz57 said:
NJB shocks I tried rubbed the chain guard due to spring pre-load adjuster position.

I have the NJB shocks on mine. With a washer at the bottom bolt and the shocks on the middle (or top) position this problem can be resolved.
The shocks are good - no problem yet. But next time I would try the Hagons, because they are the best Girling replicas.

Ralf

To me Hagons are shit and won't last the time, best to pay the price for better shochk that work and save many more $$$ than what they are worth 38 years of the same shocks and still work the same as new is what its all about even when they need rebuilding.

Ashley
 
ashman said:
Towner said:
mschmitz57 said:
NJB shocks I tried rubbed the chain guard due to spring pre-load adjuster position.

I have the NJB shocks on mine. With a washer at the bottom bolt and the shocks on the middle (or top) position this problem can be resolved.
The shocks are good - no problem yet. But next time I would try the Hagons, because they are the best Girling replicas.

Ralf

To me Hagons are shit and won't last the time, best to pay the price for better shochk that work and save many more $$$ than what they are worth 38 years of the same shocks and still work the same as new is what its all about even when they need rebuilding.

Ashley

In former times I had Konis on all my bikes, but they haven't been such expensive in that times. The NJB shocks are not bad and worth the money (10000mls without problems yet). What problems did you have with Hagons ?

Ralf
 
Hagons never felt the same as the Konis but I like shocks that can handle hard use, I ride my bike hard and like the best handling that can be prooduce from from good shockes and what I found from Hagons they don't even come close but then I do own a Fertherbed and handling is so much inportant to me' Hagons will never come close to a good set of shocks, they won't even last if used hard so it always what you can afford, but pay for good shocks that will last a life time and Hagons will never come close to my Konis, the ride is better and when ajusted to what you use them for and they will never let you down and a new set of Ikons on my other project bike I can't wait to ride it and I do a lot of hard miles on my Norton.

Ashley
 
NJB's are close to the old Girlings, its ran by an ex Girling employee. They are good for what they are but limited as they have good compression damping but limited rebound and all none adjustable. I buy Koni's off ebay, last set was £38 including postage and will cost another £30 to rebuild including new seals, powdercoating springs and bodies, Stainless steel nuts, washers and new eye rubbers. This last set will give me 5 sets for 2 Commando's, one T120R and 2 BSA's leaving some scramble NJB's for a BSA. Even the old 76 series can be rebuilt using the 7610 seals and seal holder by making up the difference in height with 3 or 4 washers in the base below the tube, the disadvantage of losing the dial a ride is offset by the finer adjustment of the rebound damping. The worst thing about the 76 series is the stupid compression bump stop washer which dissolves in the damping oil and the crud blocks the damping passageways, all the ports have to be cleaned out and the washer replaced with a nylon copy.
 
yes...

if you plan on doing any real miles on your bike (or plan on keeping it for the long run) go with the Ikons (or Gazi, or works shocks) - the standard hagons shocks really are pretty mediocre - you'll notice the difference with better quality shocks and your back will thank you for it


tomtietjen said:
Just got a price from the ikon dist, $460.00 for a set of 4610's vs $194 for the Hagons. Are they 2 1/2 times better?
 
Wilbers and Ohlins are only bested by Penskes, then by not much. In any of the afore mentioned cases you will be spending $500 to $1000 for a pair, over $2000 for the Penskes, if they are available for the Norton.

If your ISOs are OE or over 5 years old the Hagons may be your best value. The Commando has a built in hinge with the isolastic drive train mounting system; as good or better than any motorcycle of its time, but think how far tires have come since the introduction of the Commando?

If your ISOs are fresh the Ikons may be the best affordable choice, I have them on a '72 Combat with new ISOs and Mk3 adjusters set at 1.75 holes, as the best compromise between handling and vibration avoidance. If I want to run the Combat aggressively (which I don't) I'd tighten the ISO to about .5 holes, I do have Jim's headsteady.

Hagons and the modern equivalent of the Girlings of yester year.

Best wishes with your choices.

Bill.
 
I am seriously considering the Ikons, but at $700.00 plus in NZ, Have to wait for the Accountant to give me the ok. Might just have to buy the cheap shit in the mean time or pinch the originals off my 750.
dereck
 
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