Odyssey battery

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looks like a fair price, all things considered but Is it just me, or is it kinda chintsy that they charge a further $5.95 for the terminals, sorry - L adapters that 'may be required by some models' (read, probably needed on just about anything).
 
gory said:
looks like a fair price, all things considered but Is it just me, or is it kinda chintsy that they charge a further $5.95 for the terminals, sorry - L adapters that 'may be required by some models' (read, probably needed on just about anything).
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Yep, I agree. $5.95 for $1.50? worth of connectors. I got them because of all the crap I have attached to the battery. With the battery "top" facing out it is easier to disconnect, the battery is sealed and sideways is not a problem, or so they claim. Let you know in 5 years.

MF
 
commando6868 said:
gory said:
looks like a fair price, all things considered but Is it just me, or is it kinda chintsy that they charge a further $5.95 for the terminals, sorry - L adapters that 'may be required by some models' (read, probably needed on just about anything).
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Yep, I agree. $5.95 for $1.50? worth of connectors. I got them because of all the crap I have attached to the battery. With the battery "top" facing out it is easier to disconnect, the battery is sealed and sideways is not a problem, or so they claim. Let you know in 5 years.

MF
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FWIW, I secured it with Velcro tie strips, seems to work OK
 
commando6868 said:
Here is link to where you can buy an Odyssey battery, this is the best price I found.

http://www.batterymart.com/p-odyssey-pc ... le-battery

It fit my 75 Commando with no mods. I believe this is the one CNW uses. I have gone thru so many batteries on this bike if I get 5 years out of it I will be worth the price.

MF
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I used the PC 625 for several years, but not the PC 680. The PC 625 was a very tight fit and I actually cut some of the plastic ribs down in order to make it fit in the stock MKIII tray.

Since my distributor stopped offering the Odyssey, I have gone to the Shorai Lithium batteries on all the builds. So far, great performance and build quality. The weight saving is pretty amazing as well.

The price on the battery listed above is great no doubt, so as long as it fits, I m sure you will be very happy with the Odyssey.

Matt / Colorado Norton Works
 
Thanks for the info, Matt. I'm planning to put a Shorai in my MKIII. Which size do you recommend? The dimensions look like it might even be possible to stuff in the large A3 size case, up to 36 AH, if one wanted to. I was considering the 18 or 21 AH models. It looks like either one should fit easily. I'm using Dyno Dave's starter, and it worked fine with the 12 AH AGM battery I had, but they don't seem to last very long. Thanks for any suggestions.

Ken
 
lcrken said:
Thanks for the info, Matt. I'm planning to put a Shorai in my MKIII. Which size do you recommend? The dimensions look like it might even be possible to stuff in the large A3 size case, up to 36 AH, if one wanted to. I was considering the 18 or 21 AH models. It looks like either one should fit easily. I'm using Dyno Dave's starter, and it worked fine with the 12 AH AGM battery I had, but they don't seem to last very long. Thanks for any suggestions.

Ken
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Ken,

I have put about 6 Shorais in MKIII's to date and the one I use is the LFX 21 L6. Puts great power to the starter and as mentioned, you will be amazed with the weight savings. Fits right in the stock battery box and even the std battery strap works great to keep it in place.

Shorai also does make a specific battery charger you may want to consider. It charges each cell properly and will ensure long life. Not cheap but I think its worth the investment.

Matt / Colorado Norton Works
 
Thanks, Matt. I think I'll go with that battery and charger package.

Ken
 
Hm Li chemistry cycle sales says no special charger needed, though every other Li battery uses a programmed charge rate sensing charger, so what is lost in Shoal battery w/o expensive charger? Do realize Li can be a fire hazard it water exposed or conductive whishers develop internal short that eventually spreads like wild fire.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&outp ... 33&bih=416
 
I have had an Odyssey AGM battery on my Land Rover for 4 years....seems OK...standing voltage seems lower than normal lead acid...normally sits around 11.5 volts, which is of no consequence normally but a pain running my cool box ;-), I run a shut down module to prevent the battery going flat overnight when camping and it trips off quite early!

For motorcycle application I used a Motobatt AGM, running total loss on a race GSXR750.... would start it all day with no problems...smaller lighter and just good....Motobatt are readily available in the UK and Italy to my knowledge, elsewhere too I assume....

I charged it overnight with normal battery tender style charger, you do not need a special charger for AGM batteries, they are Sealed Lead Acid, Absorbed Glass Mat,...unless...however if you deep discharge an AGM...which with winches off roaders do...down to say 4 volts or so...then you will need to connect a normal battery in parallel to fool the charger and get the thing to take a charge....plenty of info out there about this on Off Road and Hot Rod sites....

Just don't deep discharge it and parallel up a standard battery to charge it if you do....
 
SteveA said:
I have had an Odyssey AGM battery on my Land Rover for 4 years....seems OK...standing voltage seems lower than normal lead acid...normally sits around 11.5 volts, which is of no consequence normally but a pain running my cool box ;-), I run a shut down module to prevent the battery going flat overnight when camping and it trips off quite early!

For motorcycle application I used a Motobatt AGM, running total loss on a race GSXR750.... would start it all day with no problems...smaller lighter and just good....Motobatt are readily available in the UK and Italy to my knowledge, elsewhere too I assume....

I charged it overnight with normal battery tender style charger, you do not need a special charger for AGM batteries, they are Sealed Lead Acid, Absorbed Glass Mat,...unless...however if you deep discharge an AGM...which with winches off roaders do...down to say 4 volts or so...then you will need to connect a normal battery in parallel to fool the charger and get the thing to take a charge....plenty of info out there about this on Off Road and Hot Rod sites....

Just don't deep discharge it and parallel up a standard battery to charge it if you do....
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+1 for AGM.
 
CNW said:
commando6868 said:
Here is link to where you can buy an Odyssey battery, this is the best price I found.

http://www.batterymart.com/p-odyssey-pc ... le-battery

It fit my 75 Commando with no mods. I believe this is the one CNW uses. I have gone thru so many batteries on this bike if I get 5 years out of it I will be worth the price.

MF
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I used the PC 625 for several years, but not the PC 680. The PC 625 was a very tight fit and I actually cut some of the plastic ribs down in order to make it fit in the stock MKIII tray.

Since my distributor stopped offering the Odyssey, I have gone to the Shorai Lithium batteries on all the builds. So far, great performance and build quality. The weight saving is pretty amazing as well.

The price on the battery listed above is great no doubt, so as long as it fits, I m sure you will be very happy with the Odyssey.

Matt / Colorado Norton Works
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Thanks for the update Matt. I saw your bikes at the Barber, the new fuel injected Commando is a work of art. It looks very light, bet it handles great.

Mike
 
Lithium Ion battery's are almost 100% safe. The ones that commonly catch fire are first generation ones for RC applications. Most often it was caused by abusing the battery and improperly charging.

The Shorai batttery has a balance charge connector, all it does is keep each cell charging at the same voltage. A cell imbalance will reduce life.

The charger they sell, for $80 can be obtained at a hobby outlet for around $20.
he shorai battery is a large 3S2P, 11.1V nominal. Once the configuration and capacity is known, a universal charger can be used.

One like this one, simple, affordable
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... ouse_.html

I was going to do some research on the shorai battery, but ended up with the ballistic performance battery, it also has a balance charger, but it's cells do not require it.
 
Question: unless you have an 850 mkIII electric start, why is an expensive closed cell or gel cell battery an improvement? A Pb/acid battery is very cheap in comparison. I tried a closed cell that didn't last any longer than the Pb/acid type.
 
Same as Brent, I bought a Ballistic over the Shorai. The differences werent great, the Ballistic is a bit lighter for a given power rating and was cheaper.
If this battery lives up to the manufacturers claim, I will never buy another lead acid battery.
The battery I bought should be adequate to start my 10.5 to one 1360cc bike. The Oddysey listed in this thread has a shipping weight of 16 lbs. The Ballistic I bought weighs 2.5 lbs and I think has more oomph than that Oddysey.
When you consider what some people go thru drilling holes, machining things to paper thin etc. to shave a pound off a bike, this 13 pound or so weight saving is quite amazing.
Also, no dead battery after sitting all winter and no need for a trickle charger. The battery will only lose 10 percent of its power after sitting one full year!
Finally, Ballistic says it will last at least ten years. My average has been about five years for lead acid MC batteries. Lead acid, goodbye!

Glen
 
worntorn said:
Same as Brent, I bought a Ballistic over the Shorai. The differences werent great, the Ballistic is a bit lighter for a given power rating and was cheaper.
If this battery lives up to the manufacturers claim, I will never buy another lead acid battery.
The battery I bought should be adequate to start my 10.5 to one 1360cc bike. The Oddysey listed in this thread has a shipping weight of 16 lbs. The Ballistic I bought weighs 2.5 lbs and I think has more oomph than that Oddysey.
When you consider what some people go thru drilling holes, machining things to paper thin etc. to shave a pound off a bike, this 13 pound or so weight saving is quite amazing.
Also, no dead battery after sitting all winter and no need for a trickle charger. The battery will only lose 10 percent of its power after sitting one full year!
Finally, Ballistic says it will last at least ten years. My average has been about five years for lead acid MC batteries. Lead acid, goodbye!

Glen
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Looks like down the road, I will have to check out the Ballistic battery. I guess that it a L I battery also

MF
 
illf8ed said:
Question: unless you have an 850 mkIII electric start, why is an expensive closed cell or gel cell battery an improvement? A Pb/acid battery is very cheap in comparison. I tried a closed cell that didn't last any longer than the Pb/acid type.
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Yeah, the e-start does need a good battery and don't forget good cables.
 
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