Norton wins again

jseng1 · Jun 28, 2017

Bill - about the missing belly pan - that's an older photo. The photo below is of the same bike with a new fairing and freshen up. But its still using the same motor, internals and cylinder bore after all those races. And yes - we need to see a video of Gary on this bike in action.

acotrel · Jun 28, 2017

One thing which I have done is to upload all of my old road racing videos to Youtube, purely in the interests of preserving our history. What Gary Thwaites is doing is very interesting. It actually proves something about old Commandos. Even the fact that the motor is very highly developed doesn't detract from the fact that the basic design is still there and his results are spectacular. If you can get some video of him racing and upload it , it would be greatly appreciated.

acotrel · Jun 29, 2017

This is worth doing will all your old motorcycle videos. It is about preserving our motorcycling history. All you need is a video capture device and means of playing old VHS or Beta tapes. :

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=acotrel1

Snotzo · Jun 29, 2017

My friend who supplies the 7R and G50 that Gary Thwaites rides, informs me that the Dave Watson Commando that Gary rode at the 2017 Bob Mac meeting is a different (larger capacity) engined machine to that which he previously rode with such great success.

jseng1 · Jun 30, 2017

Snotzo said:
My friend who supplies the 7R and G50 that Gary Thwaites rides, informs me that the Dave Watson Commando that Gary rode at the 2017 Bob Mac meeting is a different (larger capacity) engined machine to that which he previously rode with such great success.

Snotzo - your friend has misinformed you.

"Hello Jim. No we have not built a bigger motor, but we dig drag the old bike out last week for Gary to ride at the Bob Mcintyre memorial races, 5 races 5 wins, there's life in the old dog yet. Regards Gordon"

Chris · Jun 30, 2017

Hi Snotzo

The last engine was a 960. Changed a few years ago. Now a 1007. Jims par added a few years ago.
Not sure if Dave has entered Gary at Croft as it is his local circuit.

all the best Chris

jseng1 · Jun 30, 2017

Chris said:
Hi Snotzo

The last engine was a 960. Changed a few years ago. Now a 1007. Jims par added a few years ago.
Not sure if Dave has entered Gary at Croft as it is his local circuit.

all the best Chris

It was a 960cc then it became a 1007cc with the stock rods and regular heavy pistons. It wouldn't rev well so Dave contacted me and ordered the lightweight pistons, lightweight radius lifter cam kit etc. They got another 1000RPM and more power out of it and it started cleaning up the tracks.

Snotzo · Jun 30, 2017

Sorry to pass on misinformation JS, I must speak sharply to my source!

Someone will probably be able to supply accurate details of the machine sold to Bruno Perlinski a year or so back. This was said to have been the Dave Watson Commando that Gary had ridden with such success, and was supposed to have been a 750 engine, but in the light of recent posts this would seem most likely to be again incorrect.
Whatever the engine size, the undisputable fact is - the machine was/is very quick, and Gary is an extremely capable rider. Rider and machine together are something special to see, especially when stiff opposition brings out the best of both

jseng1 · Jul 1, 2017

Snotzo said:
Sorry to pass on misinformation JS, I must speak sharply to my source!

Someone will probably be able to supply accurate details of the machine sold to Bruno Perlinski a year or so back. This was said to have been the Dave Watson Commando that Gary had ridden with such success, and was supposed to have been a 750 engine, but in the light of recent posts this would seem most likely to be again incorrect.
Whatever the engine size, the undisputable fact is - the machine was/is very quick, and Gary is an extremely capable rider. Rider and machine together are something special to see, especially when stiff opposition brings out the best of both

Dave had both a 750cc with a 270 deg crank and the 1007cc. He gave up on the 750 and from what you say I assume Bruno owns it now. That makes sense since I have been in touch with Bruno about parts for his 270 deg crank 750 (I didn't know it was Daves old bike) - another interesting story.

So its not misinformation - just confusion over two different bikes. Go easy on your friend.

Since photobucket has killed all these photos I will probably start another thread with new photos when I figure out a better method.

SteveA · Jul 1, 2017

Snotzo said:
Sorry to pass on misinformation JS, I must speak sharply to my source!

Someone will probably be able to supply accurate details of the machine sold to Bruno Perlinski a year or so back. This was said to have been the Dave Watson Commando that Gary had ridden with such success, and was supposed to have been a 750 engine, but in the light of recent posts this would seem most likely to be again incorrect.
Whatever the engine size, the undisputable fact is - the machine was/is very quick, and Gary is an extremely capable rider. Rider and machine together are something special to see, especially when stiff opposition brings out the best of both

There was a 750 270 degree bike. Dave ran both for Gary. The big bike as Chris says went from 960 (ask Chris where his 960 came from :wink: ) to 1007, which is I understand how it was last raced with JSM pistons rods etc.

Bruno told me he parted out the 750, which he bought only for the crank. So I think there is truth in what we are all saying, just an issue with chronolgy and two bikes!

Oh, and Steve Perlinski, after a successful season on Dave Nourish's Weslake 750 in F750 last year is back racing in France with an early Fireblade! I hope to see father and son at Gedinne in August.

Steve

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