NOC certificate
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I sent away for one.
The form you send in has blank lines. They fill out the blank lines.
If you want to know what kind of bike you have just look at the decals on your gas tank :mrgreen:
In my case (pre commando) I wanted to see if they could document that my 68 atlas was sold to Dunstall. They did that
The puzzle is where the dunstalls of that era all got engine swaps and they NEVER matched the roling chasssis #. This apparently was not the case for commando's... I knew that and it was also verified. Since it was (not a 67atlas ) but a 68 atlas it was no longer a legit "Dunstall" but back to a "Norton"-sold by Dunstall. Which I already surmised.
However a NOC Certificate may only be mainly "fluff" if their DLVA will not accept the certificate for registration and dating service.
What good can it do you here in the USA?
The form you send in has blank lines. They fill out the blank lines.
If you want to know what kind of bike you have just look at the decals on your gas tank :mrgreen:
In my case (pre commando) I wanted to see if they could document that my 68 atlas was sold to Dunstall. They did that
The puzzle is where the dunstalls of that era all got engine swaps and they NEVER matched the roling chasssis #. This apparently was not the case for commando's... I knew that and it was also verified. Since it was (not a 67atlas ) but a 68 atlas it was no longer a legit "Dunstall" but back to a "Norton"-sold by Dunstall. Which I already surmised.
However a NOC Certificate may only be mainly "fluff" if their DLVA will not accept the certificate for registration and dating service.
What good can it do you here in the USA?
It is interesting to know who/when/where your bike was shipped to, as a new bike.
The problem with the certificates issued by the NOC was that that was for a bike that came out
of the factory 40+ years ago now, for a Commando, and older for all other models.
And folks were pulling all sorts of swifties to get the (valuable) old numberplates issued.
You've heard of the Norton that when inspected in person had 20+ sets of frame numbers stamped into it !!
It was in the classic mags.
Which is why the NOC then required photos of the engine, gearbox and frame numbers,
so there was some possibility the bike still resembled how it was 40 years ago :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Not surprisingly the authorities got a bit leery of all of this.
Egg on faces all around...
The problem with the certificates issued by the NOC was that that was for a bike that came out
of the factory 40+ years ago now, for a Commando, and older for all other models.
And folks were pulling all sorts of swifties to get the (valuable) old numberplates issued.
You've heard of the Norton that when inspected in person had 20+ sets of frame numbers stamped into it !!
It was in the classic mags.
Which is why the NOC then required photos of the engine, gearbox and frame numbers,
so there was some possibility the bike still resembled how it was 40 years ago :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Not surprisingly the authorities got a bit leery of all of this.
Egg on faces all around...
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dynodave said:I sent away for one.
The form you send in has blank lines. They fill out the blank lines.
If you want to know what kind of bike you have just look at the decals on your gas tank :mrgreen:
In my case (pre commando) I wanted to see if they could document that my 68 atlas was sold to Dunstall. They did that
The puzzle is where the dunstalls of that era all got engine swaps and they NEVER matched the roling chasssis #. This apparently was not the case for commando's... I knew that and it was also verified. Since it was (not a 67atlas ) but a 68 atlas it was no longer a legit "Dunstall" but back to a "Norton"-sold by Dunstall. Which I already surmised.
However a NOC Certificate may only be mainly "fluff" if their DLVA will not accept the certificate for registration and dating service.
What good can it do you here in the USA?
I guess I am looking for a pedigree somewhat. My 71 is matching numbers, frame tag, engine and trans.
Just interested in when and what configuration it left the factory in. Perhaps the "fluff" may add a little value when the time comes.
Interested in some history if its there I guess.
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