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A clever fellow invented the first active noise control system for motorcycle helmets. The aim is suppression of tiring wind noise.

Pre-orders are accepted now.
www.daal.no

DAAL Active Noice Control - DAAL - Active Noise Control

For Complex Environments ACTIVE NOISE CONTROL Contact us We at DAAL Noise Control Systems have developed a new Active Noise Control system – specifically designed for reducing wind noise, without interfering with important traffic sounds. Daal delivers Traffic Safety. Filters and reduces harmful...
www.daal.no www.daal.no

Delivery of the kit, which is aimed at user's integration in his/her favourite helmet, is scheduled for the autumn of this year.

The company has teamed up with helmet manufacturer Nolan who will market helmets with integrated noise control in due course.

I just read about the product and have no affiliation with the firm DAAL.

- Knut
 
mdt-son said:
A clever fellow invented the first active noise control system for motorcycle helmets. The aim is suppression of tiring wind noise.

Pre-orders are accepted now.
www.daal.no

DAAL Active Noice Control - DAAL - Active Noise Control

For Complex Environments ACTIVE NOISE CONTROL Contact us We at DAAL Noise Control Systems have developed a new Active Noise Control system – specifically designed for reducing wind noise, without interfering with important traffic sounds. Daal delivers Traffic Safety. Filters and reduces harmful...
www.daal.no www.daal.no

Delivery of the kit, which is aimed at user's integration in his/her favourite helmet, is scheduled for the autumn of this year.

The company has teamed up with helmet manufacturer Nolan who will market helmets with integrated noise control in due course.

I just read about the product and have no affiliation with the firm DAAL.

- Knut
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It's about $460AUD (including shipping) (3200KR) without much detail on how it works, what looks like, etc.
I'll watch with interest.
Have you signed up/committed?
It is a bit odd that they won't show anything but a darkened photo of a helmet (full face) as promotion don't you think?
Thanks for sharing!
Cheers
 
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Hi Rob,
I have not signed up as yet as I need to get my Mk3 finished, so this takes priority at the moment.

You can read about how active noise control works here:

What is ANC - How does Noise Cancellation work?

Active noise cancellation (ANC) works on different frequencies. How do you know the difference - and what is active noise cancellation?
www.bang-olufsen.com www.bang-olufsen.com

If you click on the photo, a picture carussel appears which is a bit more informative I hope.

The kit is a bit more expensive actually. Excluding domestic VAT the price is 4792 NOK + s/h. This includes the Intercom (not shown in the carussel).

Cheers,

Knut
 
mdt-son said:
Hi Rob,
I have not signed up as yet as I need to get my Mk3 finished, so this takes priority at the moment.

You can read about how active noise control works here:

What is ANC - How does Noise Cancellation work?

Active noise cancellation (ANC) works on different frequencies. How do you know the difference - and what is active noise cancellation?
www.bang-olufsen.com www.bang-olufsen.com

If you click on the photo, a picture carussel appears which is a bit more informative I hope.

The kit is a bit more expensive actually. Excluding domestic VAT the price is 4792 NOK + s/h. This includes the Intercom (not shown in the carussel).

Cheers,

Knut
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Thanks - I couldn't get to where the system is explicitly explained but the name (Bang & Olufsen) says a lot!
Thanks for the heads-up - I will be watching with interest.
Cheers
 
mdt-son said:
A clever fellow invented the first active noise control system for motorcycle helmets. The aim is suppression of tiring wind noise.

Pre-orders are accepted now.
www.daal.no

DAAL Active Noice Control - DAAL - Active Noise Control

For Complex Environments ACTIVE NOISE CONTROL Contact us We at DAAL Noise Control Systems have developed a new Active Noise Control system – specifically designed for reducing wind noise, without interfering with important traffic sounds. Daal delivers Traffic Safety. Filters and reduces harmful...
www.daal.no www.daal.no

Delivery of the kit, which is aimed at user's integration in his/her favourite helmet, is scheduled for the autumn of this year.

The company has teamed up with helmet manufacturer Nolan who will market helmets with integrated noise control in due course.

I just read about the product and have no affiliation with the firm DAAL.

- Knut
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He’s “invented” putting headphones in a helmet?
 
Triton Thrasher said:
He’s “invented” putting headphones in a helmet?
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No. This is a scientific system for active noise control adopted to motorcycle helmets. It works by filtering out undesired sounds including white broadband noise from wind. Read the Bang & Olufsen link above.
In addition, there is an Intercom system included in the loop.

This is a great system aimed at reducing rider fatigue. As seen in the ad, it's endorsed by one of the world's most experienced Paris-Dakar rally motorcyclists who knows what rider fatigue is about.

- Knut
 
mdt-son said:
No. This is a scientific system for active noise control adopted to motorcycle helmets. It works by filtering out undesired sounds including white broadband noise from wind. Read the Bang & Olufsen link above.
In addition, there is an Intercom system included in the loop.

This is a great system aimed at reducing rider fatigue. As seen in the ad, it's endorsed by one of the world's most experienced Paris-Dakar rally motorcyclists who knows what rider fatigue is about.

- Knut
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Yes - but it it not clear what the system comprises and what helmets it will be compatible with.
Without more information it is a "pig in a poke".
Hence - I'll watch until more information is forthcoming - the endorsement could maybe have been "incentivised".
Cheers
 
robs ss said:
Yes - but it it not clear what the system comprises and what helmets it will be compatible with.
Without more information it is a "pig in a poke".
Hence - I'll watch until more information is forthcoming - the endorsement could maybe have been "incentivised".
Cheers
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Agreed. There should be a picture showing exactly what you are paying for, and I have told them. Your desire for more information has been forwarded.
I think the ad is a bit in the making yet!

- Knut
 
mdt-son said:
No. This is a scientific system for active noise control adopted to motorcycle helmets. It works by filtering out undesired sounds including white broadband noise from wind. Read the Bang & Olufsen link above.
In addition, there is an Intercom system included in the loop.

This is a great system aimed at reducing rider fatigue. As seen in the ad, it's endorsed by one of the world's most experienced Paris-Dakar rally motorcyclists who knows what rider fatigue is about.

- Knut
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OK he’s “invented” putting noise cancelling headphones in a helmet?
 
Triton Thrasher said:
OK he’s “invented” putting noise cancelling headphones in a helmet?
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You need to read the "Our story" ingress. This guy is an acoustic engineer.

The technology of active sound suppression is not new, so I wouldn't call it "invention".

The product development is about the algoritms, software and hardware, enabling wind noise to be filtered out while retaining the important sounds of traffic and Intercom speech. This is not a trivial task.
The system is all custom made, it's not an off-the-shelf product.

- Knut
 
Well I think it looks like a great idea irrespective of the technicalities of who invented what. I wish him well and look forward to cost effect products being widely available.

Wind noise is a highly underrated issue on bikes. And some people (me being one) aren’t comfortable with generic ear plugs cutting out all noise when riding.

I‘m currently using rather expensive purpose designed plugs that have filters in designed to block wind noise but allow other sounds through. They seem to work very well, but I imagine the noise cancelling idea could work far better.
 
Of course it’s a very good idea, speaking as someone with industrial deafness.

If you really think it’s someone’s new invention, disillusion yourself by Googling active noise cancelling motorcycle.
 
Triton Thrasher said:
Of course it’s a very good idea, speaking as someone with industrial deafness.

If you really think it’s someone’s new invention, disillusion yourself by Googling active noise cancelling motorcycle.
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The ones I could see seemed to be designed more for cancelling unwanted noise in order to maximise the music quality. And / or reducing the noise when speaking. I’m a Luddite with this kinda stuff… are they also good for use where only noise reduction is required, ie NOT for playing music etc?
 
Triton Thrasher said:
Of course it’s a very good idea, speaking as someone with industrial deafness.

If you really think it’s someone’s new invention, disillusion yourself by Googling active noise cancelling motorcycle.
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The DAAL system appears to be unrivalled in sophistication and quality, and deserves the adjective "invented" IMHO. There is really one contender only - Sena Momentum INC.
motorbikewriter.com

Active noise-cancelling system for helmets - webBikeWorld

An active noise-cancelling system for motorcycle helmets has been launched by Norwegian tech startup DAAL at the EICMA motorcycle show in Milan.
motorbikewriter.com

- Knut
 
mdt-son said:
The DAAL system appears to be unrivalled in sophistication and quality, and deserves the adjective "invented" IMHO. There is really one contender only - Sena Momentum INC.
motorbikewriter.com

Active noise-cancelling system for helmets - webBikeWorld

An active noise-cancelling system for motorcycle helmets has been launched by Norwegian tech startup DAAL at the EICMA motorcycle show in Milan.
motorbikewriter.com

- Knut
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Have you tried it?
 
Fast Eddie said:
Well I think it looks like a great idea irrespective of the technicalities of who invented what. I wish him well and look forward to cost effect products being widely available.

Wind noise is a highly underrated issue on bikes. And some people (me being one) aren’t comfortable with generic ear plugs cutting out all noise when riding.

I‘m currently using rather expensive purpose designed plugs that have filters in designed to block wind noise but allow other sounds through. They seem to work very well, but I imagine the noise cancelling idea could work far better.
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The company I work for used to custom ear plugs, using special acoustic filters with a very linear attenuation - basically you hear everything as before, just with a 10, 15 or 20dB reduction. Of course, I was a test person as well as the designer, so I have a good supply of custom earplugs and filters now. Manks a hell of a difference when riding, compared to the yellow foam industrial things I used to use.
Unfortunately, we stopped doing these things in early 2019, and I do not know of anybody doing as good a product.
 
robs ss said:
Have you tried it?
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Not yet. The commercial product will be launched in the autumn. As noted before, I am not affiliated with the company, and my sole interest is promoting new technology.
As DAAL's technology is patented, and considering the expertise behind this product, I trust it offers a significant improvement over existing products.
I am sure Motorbike_Writer and other magazines will test the product once it has been released.

- Knut
 
I've used anc earbuds for years. Panasonic RPH-55's were my go-to until they stopped making them. I have a set of Tao Tao buds with anc, but I'm jonesing for the Bose QC 20. they're kind of spendy, but rolling with anc buds means hearing protection AND music or phone functions.

Active Noise Cancellation Tech was invented for industrial hearing protection.
 
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