New 850 Commandos-Still In Their Crates!

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I really think that the executors have made the wrong decision in using an auctioneer more used to disposing of bankrupt stock and industrial equipment. The whole procedure is obscure and not at all friendly to individual buyers. To a business that can reclaim the VAT, this aspect is not a problem and of course their normal client is of this type and they don't usually want private punters getting in the way of the trade customers.

It is not unusual for the major UK auction houses to deal with continental collections and if one of those had dealt with this sale, there would have been proper research of the machines provenance (Was that the 'space-frame' that Williams had his last race outing on ? Have those Proddie Racers won national championships ?) and the sale would have been much more accessible to private buyers.

The cataloguing of the spare parts is dreadful. Fine for a local farm sale but useless for international customers.

Fortunately, the Belgians are rather good at organising piss-ups in breweries (and elsewhere) but this sale shows a complete lack of understanding of the market involved.
 
Believe it or not: by coincidence a few months ago I was in a Ducati bike shop. My Norton was parked just in front of it and a guy who saw it started to talk to me. He turned out to be related by marriage to the Podevin family. He explained me they had plans to sell the whole "heritage" but at that time he (or they) had no idea how to organise this. Being a motorcyclist himself, classic bikes didn't interest him at all. "What could be the value of a new Norton still in the crate ? " he asked me...
So it is obvious they contacted a "specialised company" for the job just to try to collect as much money as possible. They indeed have no understanding of the market at all.
 
Does anyone know why the bids for the new Commando's are that different ? They all seem to be the same bikes, having the same specs, even with the same colour.(except one ?) :?:
 
Interesting - the bids are for less than Nortons have sold for on Ebay. I guess I was totally wrong in thinking these were "valuable collector bikes" and would have to stay in the crates to retain that value. I guess as some have suggested, they are just old Commandos that need a lot of work to be rideable...
 
mike996 said:
Interesting - the bids are for less than Nortons have sold for on Ebay. I guess I was totally wrong in thinking these were "valuable collector bikes" and would have to stay in the crates to retain that value. I guess as some have suggested, they are just old Commandos that need a lot of work to be rideable...
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The bidding is far from over. Final sales price will surely be much higher than the current bids.
 
Paul said:
Does anyone know why the bids for the new Commando's are that different ? They all seem to be the same bikes, having the same specs, even with the same colour.(except one ?) :?:
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They are all pretty close except for the Black one.
 
MichaelB said:
Paul said:
Does anyone know why the bids for the new Commando's are that different ? They all seem to be the same bikes, having the same specs, even with the same colour.(except one ?) :?:
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They are all pretty close except for the Black one.
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That would have to be the most cost ineffective alternative to a respray ever! I suspect that the ultimate prices will be closer to parity, and just a tad more than they are at present.
I was thinking that I could get some stranded Brits to bring one back on the ferry next week :wink:

I also expect those proddy racers to go for good money.

For me, the biggest suprise so far is the Triumph Adventurer - someone clearly has their heart set on that one!
 
wow, he had a lot more commando's than we all thought.... some are still pretty cheap :wink:
That jpn is cool as hell
 
one day to go chaps,37000 euros will get you the race bike, still most under 10000, wouldnt mind 3 T160s
 
splatt said:
one day to go chaps,37000 euros will get you the race bike, still most under 10000, wouldnt mind 3 T160s
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I have to admit the T160s were holding my interest more than the Commandos...but not my Wife's :roll:
I suspect the last 10 minutes will be the most 'entertaining'
 
B+Bogus said:
I suspect the last 10 minutes will be the most 'entertaining'
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This is not Ebay, bidding works differently:

- They have a five minute rule: If you enter your bid within the last five minutes before the end of the auction the end will be postponed by another five minutes:

http://www.troostwijkauctions.com/uk/ho ... es/92-295/

- As far as I understand they don't have this automatic bidding: If you enter your maximum which is substantially higher this will be the new bid. It's probably the same as in an live auction: If someone shouts out a much higher price the auctioneer will use this straight away and not stick to the incremental steps used before.

So be careful, Ebay logic does not work here....


Tim
 
ludwig said:
I realise it is a bit short notice , but if anyone is interested in a specific nr , I'll take pics and aditional info .
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Could you have a closer look at the Dommie, lot no. 16? Looks like a nice resto base but it's already at EUR2100,-.


Tim
 
Well, it looks like a black paint job is now worth at least 2000 Euros!!!

If there's enough interest I'll consider doing them with a 20% discount :mrgreen:
 
F*cking hell, there's too much money floating around...;-)

The spaceframe went for 100k which after mark-up is 150+ kUSD.

The rotary went for 11k -> 17+ kUSD (hope the buyer understood that "zonder motor" means "without engine"!)

The crated corpses....errr.... Commandos went for 14.5 to 17kEUR so fetched more than 25 kUSD each at least. Incredible.....




Tim
 
Tintin said:
The rotary went for 11k -> 17+ kUSD (hope the buyer understood that "zonder motor" means "without engine"!)
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:lol: :lol: :lol: THAT would be a "priceless moment"

Do you have a full list or a link to a list with pictures?

Jean
 
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