N15CS rear fender loop - strange angle on it!

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The pics of N15's I see show the rear loop that supports the fender being fairly parallel with top of the rear subframe. Mine is angled up and It's not mounted wrong, the tabs are facing down and line up with the far back fender holes OK, but the whole thing is way askew, it's high-tailing it with the fender way up.

I checked for any bending or re-welding and it sure seems original. I don't see any other way to mount it either. Yeesh, why me. Anyway I would like any inputs on this - I don't think any of my parts are from other bikes, it was quite complete. But you never know.

Also, I'm missing the front lower fender mount and I've scoured for a pic of how it mounts. It's the one in the last pic, anyone have a picture of this one in place? I have seen some other discussions of the mount but the pics are completely obscured and they didn't help. Seems I could make one if I knew the dimensions and how it mounts. Or lash out and buy one for 25$. I suppose if I had one in my hands and the rear loop was properly sorted it would be obvious how it goes.

N15CS rear fender loop - strange angle on it!


N15CS rear fender loop - strange angle on it!


N15CS rear fender loop - strange angle on it!
 
Took it off to see if it's been re-welded. Hard to tell. If I had a pic of one from this angle to compare it to that would really help. I realize this isn't something most have just laying around, but ya never know. I downloaded many pics of crusty old N15CS frames as reference, they helped in other ways but not this.

It seems easy enough to fix if wrong. If I had a welder. And I knew how to weld. Otherwise it's gonna cost more than a replacement.

Reminds me of the line, one soldier to another: "hey if we had some eggs, we could have bacon and eggs. If we had some bacon."

N15CS rear fender loop - strange angle on it!
 
OK I think it's been re-welded incorrectly due to to a pic I found. Mine in foreground.

N15CS rear fender loop - strange angle on it!
 
I think the previous owner thought it looked cool to have the ass end in yojr face.

Slick
 
OK I think it's been re-welded incorrectly due to to a pic I found. Mine in foreground.
I have several in my spares depot. Let me know if you need an angle measurement between the loop and the flat bar extension.
Poor weld quality reveals that your part wasn't made like this at the works.

You may find this thread useful:

- Knut
 
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I have several in my spares depot. Let me know if you need an angle measurement between the loop and the flat bar extension.
Poor weld quality reveals that your part wasn't made like this at the works.

You may find this thread useful:

- Knut
Thank you Knut I appreciate it, if you have the time to measure it may help. I suspect the cost of labor here with the usual minimum charge will make it cheaper to just buy a repro for about $75 though or try to find a used one.
 
I will take a reading if you really need it.
Good luck finding a used one. If you intend to complete your build in the near future, I recommend you buy a repro, or repair the one you have, which is a small repair really.
Walridge used to stock 03-2256. The old inventory list I looked at this morning showed no stock, please verify. Norvil list it too, but I don't know how faithful his part is made.
Repros tend to be of the older type, 03-1530. What are the hole sizes at your fender tabs at the loop?

PS. 02-9763 is the loop made for the late G80CS and which is readily available to me. It has a 10 degree angle between loop C/L and the flat bar extension C/L. 03-1530/03-2256 may be identical in this regard.

- Knut
 
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I know that this is probably useless, unrelated info, but if you look at pics of the later P11, you will see that many of them have straight rear hoops while a few are bent upwards. On my own I used a reproduction hoop and bent it upwards on purpose to fit the rear fender/swingarm/rear wheel I used.
 

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I will take a reading if you really need it.
Good luck finding a used one. If you intend to complete your build in the near future, I recommend you buy a repro, or repair the one you have, which is a small repair really.
Walridge used to stock 03-2256. The old inventory list I looked at this morning showed no stock, please verify. Norvil list it too, but I don't know how faithful his part is made.
Repros tend to be of the older type, 03-1530. What are the hole sizes at your fender tabs at the loop?

PS. 02-9763 is the loop made for the late G80CS and which is readily available to me. It has a 10 degree angle between loop C/L and the flat bar extension C/L. 03-1530/03-2256 may be identical in this regard.

- Knut
Yeah I'll get a repro, the part numbers confuse me because 03-0315 is listed at Baxter and others sure looks to be correct, but I'm not sure where that number comes from as it's not in the master parts list for hybrids that I reference. I think I'll talk to Walridge as I need a side cover and toolbox from them as well. Walridge lists both the part numbers you mention as well. I'll consult the expert and make sure I don't get the wrong part. I did that on a kickstand. Really struggling with the center stand too so I'm stand-less. So now the bike hangs from the hoist still.
 
Yeah I'll get a repro, the part numbers confuse me because 03-0315 is listed at Baxter and others sure looks to be correct, but I'm not sure where that number comes from as it's not in the master parts list for hybrids that I reference.
It's incorrect. 030315 (03-0315 to you yanks) is the spare part number for the entire 1964 type roadster subframe, applicable to the G/N15CS as well.
Baxter and originator messed this up. Unfortunately there is a lot of false information floating around. This tells me Baxter and originator have no clue what they're making/selling or if it's fit for purpose.
Baxter has no picture of the product, so it's hard to tell if it looks right or not. If you are referring to Classicbikeshop.uk , they have been gracious enough to provide dimensions of the loop they are selling. Compare these dimensions to your presumably genuine loop.
If the repop needs changing (as is required for many repops), buying one is a vaste of money IMHO.

- Knut
 
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