More Injun trouble ahead ...!

Sounds interesting:


http://www.financialexpress.com/auto/bi ... c42k.email

Indeed.
And with BSA coming back from the dead, the future does seem a lot more interesting.
The modern classic niche looks to be here to stay.

Forks look wimpy on that spy shot...

That does sound interesting and I'm curious how they deal with the vibration.
As an aside, and probably I should just bite my tongue, but I think it's time to retire terms on here that have a generally accepted derogatory connotation for a national origin, such as Jap and Injun.
Bill

pantah_good said:

...terms on here that have a generally accepted derogatory connotation for a national origin, such as Jap and Injun.
Bill

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I believe "Jap" is no more derrogatory than "Brit"; it is simply a shortened word.

"Injun" is simply pidgin English for "Indian", and I believe also no more derrogatory than "Limey" (for Brits).

All that said, I always use "Indian", and "Japanese" when referring to them, so as not to incite replies such as mine (or replies in criticism of same).

Ah, too much PC for me.

When I saw "Injun" I thought the thread would be about the resurrected Indian brand, which seems to be doing well, as most Polaris products do. They introduced their new FTR 750 flat tracker at the last race of the GNC season and 43-year-old ex-champ Joe Kopp got the holeshot and led several laps before fatigue set in. The machine seems competitive and 2017 will see a new "Wrecking Crew" of #1 Bryan Smith, and former champs Jared Mees and Brad Baker aboard factory-fettled FTRs. A street version would be very cool.

I have been telling friends for several years now that Enfield needs to re-introduce the 750 Interceptor and it looks like they're doing it with a proprietary engine rather than a doubling of the single like Interceptors past. Good on 'em.

Being someone with a Japanese wife, who currently spend 75% of his time in India working with some great Indian colleagues, I cannot fail to respond.

Indeed "Injun" is simply tongue in cheek phonetic spelling. No derogatory underlying meaning at all.

But I agree it is muddy waters indeed these days, as Benedict Cumberbach discovered when he was publically lambasted for using the phrase "coloured actors" whilst trying to highlight inequality in his industry. Lambasted by the very people he was trying to support!

As an interesting note on this PC madness... I friend I'm working with at present plays on line 'Scrabble' with his wife back home. He typed in "Indian" and on line scrabble would not accept the word.

When he later looked into this, he discovered that on line Scrabbles USA based HQ had deemed "Indian" to be politically incorrect. They only accept "Native American".

Now, none of us can quite fathom what "Native American" has to do with the 1.3 Billion "Native Indians" who live... errr... in India... !

Anyway, back to the motorcycle...

I guess we'll have to wait and see what they manage to turn out. Current Indians are by no means lightweight machines. And comparative to their power output, they are positively heavyweight!

But IF they can achieve a genuine 50 rwhp with the 750 and IF they can keep the weight down, they'll have a bike that outperforms the vast majority of classic Brit big twins. IF they can also keep the price down and the reliability up, they could have a real winner on their hands.

As has already been asked, it will be interesting to see how they tackle the vibration issue. I road a 500 Bullet for a sustained high speed (relatively speaking) run a while back and, honestly, it took 4 days for my hands to stop tingling !

Too bad they didn't copy the shape of the old Constellation/Interceptor engine, it's the prettiest of all the pretty British parallel twins.
Ironically , since most of REs sales come from India, the nostalgia/retro thing is probably unimportant to them, other than for the UK and North American markets ( tiny by comparison). They did nostalgia well without really trying with the Bullet. It was cheap and easy to just keep going with that old engine design. Their main market ( India) likes cheap, simple and reliable transport.
I'm not sure that the original RE twin would fit that description, pretty as it was, so that may be why they have what appears to be an all new 750 twin.

Very different than Triumph's new Bonneville ( particularly with the t120)who set 50 engineers and numerous stylists to work for five years making every thing look a certain way while keeping it very modern internally.

Glen

And how will they gain Euro 4 certification with this new 750?
Photo shows it appears to be air cooled, no?
Can they lean out the mixture enough on an air cooled mill, avoid detonation, and achieve satisfactorily clean exhaust?