MkIII still in crate... How much would it be worth?

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I know someone who has a 75 MKIII still unassembled and in a crate? He swears that he will never sell it, but everything is for sale.... Anyone know how much a "new" Norton would be worth?
 
You send it Here .I will give you fifty dollars , and You can Keep the crate . 8)

Some pr.ks are after 16.000 pounds for one , with some'd say about as much chance of getting it . :|
 
The problem I see is it is collectable whilst it is still in the crate, for novelty value Etc, but if you had the pleasure of commissioning the bike, it would be worth much the same as all the other low milage MK111's. It would kill me!

Cheers Richard
 
That dozen or so new Norton Mk3s in crates in Belgium or Holland (was it ?) a year or 2 back all went for just over $20k each. (?).

Of course, you then have the problem that they've been sitting for 35 years, so all the rubber components and oil seals and hydrualic brake components may or may not have dried out. And the minor matter that they have never been registered before, and don't actually meet any 2011 EPA etc standards.

Someone bought the Harris Matchless G80 new in a crate there, and then had a HUGE bunfight getting it approved for road use.

And as someone said, as soon its its started its lost its museum piece status, and the value plummets...
 
Is the machine worth the "Some of it's parts"? as the bits are New,eg what is a New original Head worth,or a new crankcase...etc.
Stafford Classic bike show saw a Crated New one fetch £18,000...How much would Norvil charge to assemble a "New"Commando using all NEW parts, if that is possible :?:
Motor bikers and "silly" collectors have differant value levels , a real world value to me would be 10K...put two rich "got to have it" collectors in the frame....well who knows :!:
 
Norvil were listing NEW Commandos at 10.000 pounds , at the begining of the Centurie , the price had doubled by 2008 to 20.000 pounds . or was that Kiwi Dollars , perhaps.5 & 10.000 pounds ? .
Cant see why Mr thingo hasnt put them back in production , with ' my ' frame design & one or two other improvements , as a interim measure , like the Original Commando . :D
 
Matt Spencer said:
Cant see why Mr thingo hasnt put them back in production , with ' my ' frame design & one or two other improvements , as a interim measure , like the Original Commando . :D
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Emissions, for one reason. Imagine trying to get a Commando to pass Euro 3 :!:
 
john robert bould said:
Is the machine worth the "Some of it's parts"? as the bits are New,eg what is a New original Head worth,or a new crankcase...etc.
Stafford Classic bike show saw a Crated New one fetch £18,000...How much would Norvil charge to assemble a "New"Commando using all NEW parts, if that is possible :?:
Motor bikers and "silly" collectors have differant value levels , a real world value to me would be 10K...put two rich "got to have it" collectors in the frame....well who knows :!:
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Amen to "silly" collectors. Just went to a local auction of Ed Brooks left overs in San Jose. Those silly collectors were obseen with their bids.

Responding to value of a new in the crate Commando, in the late 70's Brooks Cyclery (Ed Brooks mentioned above) advertised in the local newpaper $1499 for a new in the crate 850 Commando - I recall they were '74 models. Current collector price would be at least 10 times that. Also as mentioned, once you take it out of the crate and use it the value will drop rapidly. Also check Norvil Motorcycles as they do sell new Commandos they assemble from parts.
 
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Also check Norvil Motorcycles as they do sell new Commandos they assemble from parts.
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There has been discussion elsewhere that if you read the fine print very carefully, if new parts are not available then 'reconditioned' (or similar word) parts can be used.
Someone reported engine problems with their 'new' Commando, and inspection revealed some of it was well used. !!

And if you consider that new speedos and tachos and sidecovers and cylinder heads were unavailable for some years, what does that suggest.....
 
Rohan said:
There has been discussion elsewhere that if you read the fine print very carefully, if new parts are not available then 'reconditioned' (or similar word) parts can be used.
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Well, it starts with the cyl head doesn't it? As Fullauto partners with Mick Hemmings I can imagine that these heads find their way into a Norvil Commando - and AFAIK only these could be called "new". :twisted:

Regarding the crated /coffined MkIII - look for the two threads back then. Everythings has been said there.


Tim
 
Whats changed recently is the fact that you can now buy a new modern replica for £12,000 so I doubt it's now worth more than that.

Manx Nortons were fetching silly money until a small company started remanufacturing them.

1960/70s Triumph Bonnevilles would be fetching silly money, well at least £6000, but you can pick a good one up for £3,500 in the UK because for £6000 you can buy a new, modern, ultra reliable, replica that looks almost the same as the original without the oil leaks, vibration or any of the bad things the original used to do.

It's just supply and demand, the market has changed, there is now a supply of Commandos for those who wanted one with a passion when they were young and eventually have disposable income to buy the bike of the dreams of their youth since non of the modern 'plastic_rockets' taps into those dreams. :!:
 
seems to me norton could do retro commandos the same as triumph does retro bonnevilles.
they'd sell ...........maybe even better than the bonnies and the 961's.
 
How much would it be worth?

There is a story of an engineer who comes out from work one night and finds a frog sitting on his car.
The frog says "I am a beautiful princess that has had a spell cast on me by and evil witch. Kiss me and I shall turn back into a princess and I promise to love you forever!"
The engineer says "Wow. Cool." He picks up the frog and slides it into his shirt pocket and heads home.
Upon arriving home he places the frog on his night stand and prepares for bed.
The frog says "Don't you understand! I am a beautiful princess, just kiss me and I will return to my previous glory and I promise I will be yours forever!"
The engineer looks at the frog and says..."I don't have much use for a girlfriend, but a talking frog...wow. Cool!"

The moral of the story is...
Uh wait, what were we talking about? Oh yeah...the moral is, you just never know what is going to appeal to some collectors. Me, I would kiss the frog and go riding into the sunset. But I never manage to cellar good wine either.

Russ
 
Put your cellPhone in yer' pocket. One day, it rings. It's a Commando for $1,000. You ride that beast down to Stroker's & get a beer from a dancer by trade who happens to not be wearin' much. Call your buddy to have him bring his "crate". Buy him a beer. When you both leave, no one watches him load that box into a truck, but everyone gathers around to see how many kicks it takes you to start yours. Then they marvel at how yours sounds.
 
I know of a MARK111 brand new un reg in a dealers show room in Devon he wants £20 grand for it hope this is of help
 
I've got a (high mileage) MkIII and a 16H. A MkIII in a crate is not as nice to look at as one out of it and it's even slower than a 16H so I suppose the value to me would be about £2500 with a view to using it. Most crated MkIIIs will have soft camshafts and dodgy layshaft bearings.

Fundamentally, too many of the last ones didn't sell or were hoarded by people aware that they were the last of the line. If I had the resources and someone offered me a crated Plumstead fastback then I'd probably be tempted.
 
326069 - That's quite an early MkIII and not one of the receiver-built bikes. It's more interesting than the machines included in the Laurent Poidevijn sale. They only stencilled the engine number on the crate and no reference to the frame number which rather reinforces the idea that the stamped frame numbers (which would have been a miss-matched F* number at that time) weren't considered that significant.

I think that I'd quite like that one, because of its provenance but as the seller says, once it's out of the crate, it's no longer noteworthy.
 
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