Maney alloy barrels

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Can anyone tell what material the liners in the Maney alloy barrels are, I put my barrels to a local machine shop to get them honed to suit the pistons I purchased from Jim Schmit but they called to say the liners are extremely hard . They have asked me to find out what they're made of so they can look into how to get job done.
 
Are you the original owner of the cylinders? If not - find out if they were treated by Bore tech (now out of business and not the gun people). Bore tech used to offer carbide impregnating. Or they could have been plated by Millenium.
If they have not been hardened then honing should not be a problem.
 
Are you the original owner of the cylinders? If not - find out if they were treated by Bore tech (now out of business and not the gun people). Bore tech used to offer carbide impregnating. Or they could have been plated by Millenium.
If they have not been hardened then honing should not be a problem.
Interesting point 👍
When I had new liners fitted to my Maney 920 barrels I got them silicon carbide impregnated by Laystall Engineering in Wolverhampton - after they'd been honed of course.
 
Interesting point 👍
When I had new liners fitted to my Maney 920 barrels I got them silicon carbide impregnated by Laystall Engineering in Wolverhampton - after they'd been honed of course.
Me to on the 920.

But when I tried to contact them more recently for the 1007 I heard nowt back.

Dya know if they still do this for the likes of us ?
 
It is possible to make aluminium barrels and hard anodise the bores, but you would not be able to machine the bores without the need to anodise the bores again. These days Nikasil is sometimes used. The Wellworthy barrels of the 1960s used to have cast iron liners with threaded bits at the top for head studs.
 
Can anyone tell what material the liners in the Maney alloy barrels are, I put my barrels to a local machine shop to get them honed to suit the pistons I purchased from Jim Schmit but they called to say the liners are extremely hard . They have asked me to find out what they're made of so they can look into how to get job done.
That probably explains the gestures and comments from the French guy I had hone my Maney barrels!
 
It is possible to make aluminium barrels and hard anodise the bores, but you would not be able to machine the bores without the need to anodise the bores again. These days Nikasil is sometimes used. The Wellworthy barrels of the 1960s used to have cast iron liners with threaded bits at the top for head studs.
Nikasil has been available on production bikes for more that 40 years.

Anodize has NEVER been successfully used as a bore treatment.
 
Laystall Engineering…wow, still trading. That name brought back memories for me as my old dad, now passed on, served an apprenticeship at the Gt Suffolk St site in Southwark, London and used to tell me how proud he was that they were leaders in their field of operations.
 
I think they are made from Austenitic ductile iron. You could email Steve to be sure though.
I just saw an old add for them that says they are spun cast iron liners, which shouldn't be a problem. I think they must of been replaced or as Jim says been treated some how.
 
Are you the original owner of the cylinders? If not - find out if they were treated by Bore tech (now out of business and not the gun people). Bore tech used to offer carbide impregnating. Or they could have been plated by Millenium.
If they have not been hardened then honing should not be a problem.
I bought them second hand although was told they were never used, they do look like new and unused, unfortunately I have no way of knowing what has been done to them.
 
Nikasil has been available on production bikes for more that 40 years.

Anodize has NEVER been successfully used as a bore treatment.
Thanks for that. I was once wondering about using aluminium barrels with Nikasil. But the expansion rates would be different from iron barrels. If I race I always use methanol fuel. With the iron barrels, I usually let the barrels and pistons warm-up without giving the motor a rev. With Nikasil on aluminium barrels, the piston to bore clearances could be smaller. I am surprised how good methanol is in the 850 motor, it could have been made for it - even at low compression.
 
Hard anodise is normal anodising done in a refrigerated bath. I encountered it somewhere, but cannot remember the application. Most high strength aluminium alloys contain some copper, and probably cannot be anodised successfully,
 
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