Just got my motor back from CNW.

Another note is to keep the hi-tension coils and leads away from the rest of the ignition system. A lot of manufacturers specify the need for this.

Robert, Where did you buy the relays and what brand are they? This is the same point I am on my bike, Wiring. Hope to do the same and clean the system up a bit, I won't be running turn signals and also want to remove the duplicate wires. Your idea of a panel is great, Hope this will work on mine too. Thanks in advance, Chuck.

Hortons Norton said:

Robert, Where did you buy the relays and what brand are they? This is the same point I am on my bike, Wiring. Hope to do the same and clean the system up a bit, I won't be running turn signals and also want to remove the duplicate wires. Your idea of a panel is great, Hope this will work on mine too. Thanks in advance, Chuck.

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Hi Chuck I am just heading out just now, football then a couple of pints, will post answer in morning if that's ok, just standard relays though.
Cheers
Robert

I understand totally, I will be spending Sunday watching our brand of football and a few pints also. Thanks for the reply, Chuck.

If any other people need to ask any MKIII wiring harness questions, feel free to hijack as any information is good information for me.

I think I'll draw out a harness first, then maybe make a dummy harness out of crap wire and if everything lines up and looks good I'll dive and do it for real.

I bought a good digital multi meter, some wire strippers, a pair of Channel Lock crimpers and wire and connectors from CNW. All I need is some loom tape and some heat shrink.

In reply to Hortons Norton's question about the relays, they were just standard 4 pin relays I bought from Vehicle Wiring Products here in UK, I did however also buy the connector blocks that they plug into as I thought they would be easier to connect and disconnect should anything go amiss, also the blocks can connect together to make a unit. The in line fuses are the single waterproof type bought from the same company, and they are waterproof, just used the 1 for the hi & lo beams and 1 each for the horn and ignition relays.
I have the earlier airbox fitted so have a good bit of room in the battery area, I connected the panel using a support arm to the bolt that holds the back plate on the bolt just below the hole the wiring goes through. I will put some screen beading round the edges when I mount it, that way any sharp edges will be covered and it will help sort out vibes.
I can draw up the dimensions of the panel if you would like, it was very easy to throw together, using a couple of pieces of scrap metal I had lying around.
In answer to Coco, simplifying the harness is a great idea, as stated earlier you can learn a lot too about the electrics on your bike, which can only help and as a custom loom you know exactly where things are and what goes where.
If I had not added fuses and relays, my wiring would have been a lot simplier. Good idea of yours to draw it out or even do a dummy using old wiring. Best tip of all is give yourself a good bit extra on each wire as you do not want to finish it and discover the wire won't reach the connection!!!
You know what they say... " a snip in the wrong place...."
This forum has helped me immensely I would have struggled without the help
Good luck

Note that I don't show indicator lights, pilot light, assimilator and such; not needed for a "1st step" basic harness, or to be legal. HOWEVER the assimilator is not a bad thing! Neutral & high beam lights are optional on my bikes (not client bikes).

Thanks Robert, I plan on using relays also and will look them up in a few catalogs I have. Should be fun. Chuck.

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Note that I don't show indicator lights, pilot light, assimilator and such; not needed for a "1st step" basic harness, or to be legal. HOWEVER the assimilator is not a bad thing! Neutral & high beam lights are optional on my bikes (not client bikes).

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I'm doing a neutral and high beam warning light only. I'll have a gauge mounted to show charge. I do have a reflector with a pilot but I'll probably ditch that too and run a regular H4. The head light has to be on all the time up here anyway so the pilot is redundant.

I can't believe I'm actually getting a bit excited about figuring out the wiring. I'm turning into some kind of glutton for punishment.

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No you're not! as I mentioned I'm in the middle of doing mine and I'm quite enjoying figuring it all out. Some bits will drive you mad but....
As they say "there ain't no sanity clause"

Just purchased the relays, Connectors and some other bits from a site called easternbeaver, they have a bunch of stuff for rewiring bikes. Like you Robert I can't wait to get started. Does anyone know where I could buy the cloth covering for the harness? Thanks guys and have a great day, Chuck.

Hortons Norton said:

Just purchased the relays, Connectors and some other bits from a site called easternbeaver, they have a bunch of stuff for rewiring bikes. Like you Robert I can't wait to get started. Does anyone know where I could buy the cloth covering for the harness? Thanks guys and have a great day, Chuck.

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Hi Chuck, What I used was braided sleeving, it is pvc but looks good and period. I used standard pvc sleeving then put the braided over it. The reason I didn't use it on it's own is that it is meshed. The braid I used stretches a bit too, you can seal the ends with heat but I use a piece of heatshrink over the ends. If you look on here you will see it but without the inner that I put in.
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Robert

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I can't believe I'm actually getting a bit excited about figuring out the wiring. I'm turning into some kind of glutton for punishment.

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Hi Coco, Glutton for punishment??????? have a look at this....

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Believe it or not I DO know what is going on in there and what wire is what! That was taken before I taped the wires and loomed them. That is what I meant by ' you learn about your wiring'. I bought the newer type thinwall wiring which is meant to be superior than the standard stuff and the insulation is a lot thinner, I also kept the colours as Norton had them which also made life a lot simpler. One thing I did find invaluable was the continuity buzzer on my multi meter which let me make sure the wirng connections were.... eh!... connecting.
I had done a small re-wire before on my A65 L/C this was a lot bigger but I just plodded my way through it, did make some mistakes but they were easily sorted and I learned from them.
I actually enjoyed it , it was something different.
Good luck
Robert

Hey Robert, Where did you get those exhaust nuts? Those are really cool! Would love to get a set, Chuck.

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Hey Robert, Where did you get those exhaust nuts? Those are really cool! Would love to get a set, Chuck.

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Hi Chuck, they were on the bike when I got it, I think Fair Spares do similar, but they are not as substantial. They were one of the few things that were good on what was described to me as a bike in 'terrific condition', stupidly I took the, (very nice), guy at his word, (was not in country at time). I had never done anything like that before and will never again.
http://www.norvilmotorcycle.co.uk/010399.htm