John Player Paint Scheme

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For what years was the factory John Player paint scheme correct? Was it just a paint option, or were other things done to the bike if ordering the JP option? Is there any way to confirm (vin #?) what paint a bike originally came with?
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Jeff Woodard
 
Hi Jeff,

If you mean the white with blue and red stripe on the roadster model, it was offerred '74 to '75. The NOC England has the factory records which may have recorded the original color. Note sure about the 850s, but the 750s records do have this.
 
The white with blue and red on the roadster was only a color option. The John Player Norton is below.

John Player Paint Scheme
 
Yes, I'm only talking about the paint option and not the "real" replica like your picture - beautiful bike! I'm going to repaint my 74 850 and I'm considering the JP red/white/blue color scheme. Sounds like I could do that and still be "factory correct" for a 74 850, yes?

Jeff Woodard
 
old-bikes-rule said:
Yes, I'm only talking about the paint option and not the "real" replica like your picture - beautiful bike! I'm going to repaint my 74 850 and I'm considering the JP red/white/blue color scheme. Sounds like I could do that and still be "factory correct" for a 74 850, yes?

Jeff Woodard

Not according to my files- the "white with navy stripe blue" (which is what it was called officially) Roadster existed only in Mk3 form, i.e. 1975-1977. "Norton Commando (The Essential Buyer's Guide)" by Peter Henshaw claims this colour option existed before the Mk3, but it is one of many inaccuracies in the book.
 
Except that the 1974 Brochure mid page 7 shows a pic of a White Red and Blue 850 Mk2 Norton Roadster, in "new first time blue stripe finish".

So Henshaw was correct ?

Pic beside it is a white Interpol, below it is the twin headlamp JPN, with horizontal red and blue stripes. Pic on the front is the jumbled up Peter Williams in a helmet.

Opethiselps.
 
My '74 brochure is incomplete- one of the two A3 pages only-, so I take your word for it, sorry! '73, of which I have a complete copy, did not have it. Mk3 obviously has. Never saw a pre-Mk3 in that colour though, but plenty of Mk3s at the time. They are listed in the Mk2A parts list supplement (colour described as "dayglow white with blue stripes", colour #163), but I doubt they were ever actually made available.

We have seen original Norton press photographs of some interesting colours that were never produced, by the way. See the yellow Roadster on http://www.andover-norton.co.uk/NCRoadster.htm.

Another example for things that weren't actually made but advertized in the sales material is the Mk3 John Player Replica which is in the Mk3 brochure but was never put into production. Or the 750 Roadster "with optional short stroke engine", that was never built even though complete ex-Wolverhampton production short stroke engines exist.
 
ZFD said:
My '74 brochure is incomplete- one of the two A3 pages only-, so I take your word for it, sorry!

http://www.classicbike.biz/Norton/Broch ... ochure.pdf




ZFD said:
Never saw a pre-Mk3 in that colour though, but plenty of Mk3s at the time. They are listed in the Mk2A parts list supplement (colour described as "dayglow white with blue stripes", colour #163), but I doubt they were ever actually made available.

I thought we had already argued this topic out before? post71699.html#p71699 As there appears to be too many Blue stripe MkIIs for them all to be fakes?

Also this is no MkIII:
John Player Paint Scheme
 
My bike, 12/1973, mk11 I believe, had modifyied 2nd gear, US import, white and blue strip colour scheme, would have been 74 year model.
 
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