I don't refer to Japanese bikes as 'Jap bikes' because I recognise that most of them are extremely good - but they have no soul. I think many of us have a problem - we are stuck in a time warp. We believe in British bikes. As far as vertical twins go, a Paton is obviously a much better bike than any Commando. Japanese bikes are good for somebody who cannot afford a Paton. But they don't provide the same sense of achievement which is a big part of having fun. I have raced Japanese bikes and won races with them, however it means nothing to me. Doing well on a Seeley Commando is a completely different kettle of fish.