Head steady vibration

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Will a solid connection .engine -frame transmit vibes, i know the engine supposed to just go up and down, which will be OK...but does it?
If the isos are not in equal tension the engine will rock sligtly side-to side... or if the frame engine mounts are not in a true plane,that will cause side-side motion...just an idea over a cup a tea :shock:


Nortiboy said:
BJM said:
but I've heard some of them after market ones result in increased vibration.

I have installed DT head steadies on a 750 and 850. Does not increase the vibes but moves at what RPM the vibes cut in / out. Still smooth at cruise rpm.
 
I put the springs on my 750 with a home made heim joint head steady. It certainly got rid of a lot of low rpm vibration, but did nothing to the riding vibes, I didn't notice any vibe difference with the home made heim joint as opposed to the orginal one.
 
Dog T. Am i right that some rose joints dont last very long?


DogT said:
I put the springs on my 750 with a home made heim joint head steady. It certainly got rid of a lot of low rpm vibration, but did nothing to the riding vibes, I didn't notice any vibe difference with the home made heim joint as opposed to the orginal one.
 
Any head steady which prevents movement in the vertical plane will transmit vibration. The isolastics work because of the clearance between the ptfe thrust washers and the fixed end caps on the iso tube and iso bolt. Clearance needs to be kept to a minimum to minimise movement of the rear wheel in relation to the frame centre line in the horizontal plane. Any head steady using the rod end linkages only allow movement in an arc (albeit a small arc) so therefore will transmit vibration.

It's apparent on this forum a handling/frame question can't go unanswered without somebody mentioning 'the hinge'. The only hinge on any Commando is on the Mk3's seat.

The actual cause of leading some people to think there is a 'hinge' inherent in the Commando's design, is actually the swing-arm axis out of perpendicular in the vertical and/or horizontal plane to the steering head axis.

When this is the case, as the suspension moves up and down e.g at speed, leaning over through a bumpy corner, the rear wheel centre-line in relation to the frame centre-line will be constantly moving to and fro giving very similar symptoms to worn swing-arm bearings.

This is the number one problem with Commando's which don't handle through bends - as well as those which weave in a straight line.
 
I hope those Heim joints don't wear out too quick. I've read somewhere on the Forum that they will. So every time the tank is off I spray the 2 joints with a well -shaken can of chain lube using the optional long thin spray applicator tube that comes with the can. Wipe off excess. Soon will order in 2 Rubberbootseals FK-RER S2 from Moore Parts Source. Entertaining to watch how the arrangement works by looking up under tank with motor running. Just don't burn face off on hot exhaust pipe. Warning warning danger danger Will Robinson. :shock:
 
john robert bould said:
Dog T. Am i right that some rose joints dont last very long?
That's what I've heard too, but I don't put lots of miles on the bike, and the joints are easily replaced and only cost a few bucks. It would be easy enough to change them every 5-10K miles. Then there are permanently lubed ones too with covers. I think the CNW uses those.
 
Had the tank off yesterday to do a scheduled re-torque of all head bolts ( yes they needed it , moving tighter about half a turn each... ) and looked at the optional double spring support tightness/tension of the DT steady. It seemed on the light side so proceeded to tighten /increase it's lift position (about 5 or 6 turns downwards on the 1/2 in. adjuster nut.) Tank back on ,and out for a spin. Result was a noticeable drop in overall vibrations ,a nicer smoothness for sure. Not a big difference here , quite small yet pleasing. So the conclusion would have to be that yes this little item actually does work as intended. :)
 
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