grandpaul said:
Anyone arguing that the Garner 961 ISN'T a slight tweaking of Dreer's 952 is delerious.
To yammer on and on about how the new bike has nothing to do with KD's efforts, is to overlook the fact that they appear identical. If Garner is such a "visionary", the new bike would look exactly that - NEW. For goodness sake, they even had Terreblanche onboard, then I suppose the best he could do was copy every shape Kenny came up with?
"Get a grip", as the kids like to say nowdays...
No I think you are the delirious one and need to get a grip Grandpa. I have been to the factory twice, the last time only last week having my 961 serviced and to say SG's 961 is a slight tweeking of KD's bike just shows your ignorance. I suggest you get over to Donington Park and compare KD's bike (sitting under the stairs) to the current 961 as I have done and then make stupid uninformed comments like that.
Lets go through some of the slight tweeks :- 961 fuel injected, KD carbs oh and of course all the electronics that go with fuel injection and the high pressure fuel pump, guess they just tossed that in through the filler cap, I am sure Jim Comstock will agree with you that fitting fuel injection is just a slight tweek. Crankcases are totally different and I mean totally different. The oil pump is separate to the timing cover on the SG bike and the timing cover is also different, SG's housing an oil filter at the rear KD's looking more like a 70's commando with a points cover, the cylinders are different, the cylinder head is different, the frame is different, the headlamp brackets are a bit of bent metal on the Dreer bike but machined billet on the SG bike, the yolks are different as as are the brake caliper mounts, the clocks are different as is the dash panel, the exhaust system is different, the hydraulic clutch mechanism is different, the primary case is different, I could go on but it is pointless as they are tottaly different only the same in silhouette and I have only mentioned some of the bits you can see and not what will obviously be different inside.
I am not trying to take anything away from what Dreer did as he designed a beatifull looking bike and without it the 961 would never have happened but you have to give credit to SG and his team for carrying on where dreer left of and re engineer the bike and actually produce them in numbers with Euro 3 approval and now it seems US approvals.
Oh and your comment about Tereblanche being onboard is a load more b*ll?x as he didn't join the company till January 2011 long after the 961 was launched so explain how he copied every shape Dreer came up with, time machine maybe? :roll: