Cranks conrod finishing and Berylium copper valve seat

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what methods do you guys ever tried on polishing the conrod and cranks??
i saw "vibratory polisher" is this effective method for polishing the cranks and conrod?

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i saw some people do mods their bikes head using berylium copper valve seat or a bronze, anyone here tried it on norton??

Cranks conrod finishing and Berylium copper valve seat
 
Nothing to add on the vibratory polisher. Best to go to vendor for your applications and needs.

I had Beryllium Copper seats in one of my Norton race heads and just installed Berylllium Copper guides in the 500 Norton ultra short stroke. Pricey stuff.

It has superior thermal conductivity (close to copper if I recall correctly), very good durabilty and a coefficient of thermal expansion that is a good match for the air cooled alloy heads of a Norton.

It is nasty stuff as it is toxic so do not grind or inhale the metal dust and don't get splinters with it.
 
i want to polishing the crank shaft the bearing area but i'm afraid losing to much material using sand paper or bead blast..
will this vibratory polisher be the answer??

there are couple of angle option for the valve seat, which angle do you choose for your norton?
upload some pictures of it... *eye candy*
 
MARTIN.K said:
i saw "vibratory polisher" is this effective method for polishing the cranks and conrod?

Yes, at work we usually do this with crankshafts, when they are installed the have a mirror finish. Vibratory or tumbler finish can be supported by chemical processes, one very powerful example is the so-called ISF isotropic superfinish. In NASCAR they do complete engine blocks with the main aim of polishing the oil return paths inside the V. I can't see why it shouldn't work on Norton conrods. For the crankshaft I'd be tempted to say that other details should be adressed before ISF makes sense. I wouldn't use this process on a std cast iron flywheel, that would be pointless.


Tim
 
I've used several big valve Commando heads with bronze valve seats. The only thing I've noticed is that they seem to wear better than the stock iron seats. Various alloys of bronze have been used for valve seats, with nickel aluminum bronze being pretty popular. One of the phosphor bronzes was popular for seats and guides fro a while, but I haven't heard much about it for a couple of decades now. I've run beryllium copper alloy seats in my twin-cam Rotax singles racer in combination with titanium valves, and they seem to last forever, but never tried them in Norton heads. They are more pricey than the nickel aluminum bronze, however, and there are fewer suppliers. And people worry about the potential health hazards from grinding and machining them. I don't know how much hazard there is with the beryllium copper alloys, compared to the known hazards of working pure beryllium. I've been told it's not really an issue with the alloys, but I'm not a toxic metals health expert by any means. In any case, it worries some engine builders enough that they won't use it. Like DWS said, the thermal expansion rate of the bronze and beryllium copper alloys is closer to that of the aluminum head than iron or steel seats, so less likely to come loose, and they definitely conduct the heat away from the valve into the head better.

If you want to try them in a Commando head, KPMI sells the seats in what they call a proprietary nickel aluminum bronze alloy, and for a reasonable price.

I think the first Commando head I saw with bronze seats was a Dunstall big valve head, where they used it for the intake valve seat.

Ken
 
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