Commando Top Speed? (2010)

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Hobot,
let me get this straight,
You went to this guys riding school, argued with him, ignored his instruction, crashed his bike and he still graduated you?
I gotta say, I now have even more respect for Keith Code. Unfortunately for you.............

Well, I'm not going to say anymore for risking sounding like carbonfibre and straight out flaming you.
I think that it's best if from now on I just refrain from responding to your posts.

Hopefully one day you will finish your "super commando", bring it up here to the rockies and I'll get a chance to see it in action.
Who knows, maybe I'll even race you. I'll ride the S4R (if you give me a head start).

Sorry for the hijack fellas! Back to the topic.
 
Firstly it seems astonishing that anyone with years of experience in taking part in top level motorcycle competition would have any need to attend a riding school! From posts on here I can see that Hobot clearly is someone who should be setting up a riding school of his own, as anyone who can easily beat riders of modern Jap sports bikes on an old Norton, is most certainly an extremely talented racer! Seeing how a school actually works is the only reason I can see for attending, and maybe Hobot needs to contact Ducati and see if Mr Rossi is in need of any pointers for 2011?
 
I always took Hobot's posts for comic relief. I doubt anyone would believe a Commando, no matter how seriously massaged, would beat a modern sport bike. Probably could even including the new Commandos. I do believe Hobot does spend a considerable amount of time and money modifying his bikes, to which my hat's off to him.

IIRC, the lap times at Daytona are considerably slower for the vintage bikes than the modern sport bikes.
 
I thoroughly enjoy reading "Hoblish" as a welcome diversion to reading posts written in regular English. ;)

But I do sometimes wonder if Newton's motion laws have been repealed in Hobland. :)
 
mike996 said:
I thoroughly enjoy reading "Hoblish" as a welcome diversion to reading posts written in regular English. ;)

But I do sometimes wonder if Newton's motion laws have been repealed in Hobland. :)

Now that's funny s**t.
 
I wondered if the screen name "Hobut" had anything to do with the Brit twin powered "Hobbit" drag bike that was raced in the 1970s, and had several notable wins over much more sophisticated and faster Jap powered machines?
 
JimC said:
IIRC, the lap times at Daytona are considerably slower for the vintage bikes than the modern sport bikes.

That raises the interesting question then - can we find some lap times for Daytona ?
Particularly for the JPNs - that all blew up their gearboxes it was such a fast pace.
1972 - 73- 74 were the years in question.

BTW, Triumph named their Daytona Model after this track effort in the 1960s. It is noted that the later ones recorded speeds of 144 mph - from a 500 twin. In race trim of course....
 
Naw - no connection to past bikes or Hobbit books, just needed a handle back in bulletin board online days when hobo1 to bazzilion taken, so ran down a b c's till one was pronounceable and not already taken. I'm having time of my life and death with motorcycles, not out to disrupt the community, more hoping someone takes me serious and see's if they like it as much as me.

As to new physics, yes apparently so, just like new physics being discovered by higher and higher accelerator energies in particle-quantum wave research. The really powerful accelerators are called cyclotrons because of circle shape to get time/distance to pump up to 'speed'. I leave you one experiment more dangerous than working around Hi potential particle beams and radiation, get ya bike, any bike, up to 15 mph and try to straight steer it. If you or chassis don't tolerate it then you can't relate to a really potent Neutral Handling chassis. New geometry and adaptive magnet fields are allowing more plasma energy to be concentrated than established methods can. You may note straight steer tends to hi side, but rear power tends to low side, so how about combing them to nullify to Neutral, or until beam breaks out of containment, woowhee pee pee! Into new phases of transition of matter and energy states.

This top speed stuff is scary to me as I've had cycles go bizerk suddenly. I've used Scott steering damper on SV650 but it made steering more effort and prevented saves on skip outs, even set on lightest/'off' level. Yuk. I feel states of hopeful faith or foolish ignorance to nail it and just hang on till the end, good or bad.

So any reports to scare me more of going too fast in a bee line on Commandos?
 
Here's a $500 GPS speedo, out of my range but RBRacing articles always fascinating. They have advised me a bit on water spray.

http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/gpsspeedometer.htm
Commando Top Speed? (2010)
 
hobot said:
Naw - no connection to past bikes or Hobbit books, just needed a handle back in bulletin board online days when hobo1 to bazzilion taken, so ran down a b c's till one was pronounceable and not already taken. I'm having time of my life and death with motorcycles, not out to disrupt the community, more hoping someone takes me serious and see's if they like it as much as me.

I take your chassis modifications very seriously, the speed claims less so but don't let that stop you from rambling on :wink:

Jean
 
Remember that GPS cannot tell you what you are DOING, only what you DID (or what it thinks you did). ;)
 
JimC said:
IIRC, the lap times at Daytona are considerably slower for the vintage bikes than the modern sport bikes.

I don't think hobot has run Daytona yet...

...then again, he'll admit straight out, that those long straights and high banks favor the mods.
 
mike996 said:
Remember that GPS cannot tell you what you are DOING, only what you DID (or what it thinks you did). ;)

Remember that our minds cannot tell us what we are DOING, only what you DID, (or what we think we did).
 
I own an about bone stock Combat so I still have a toe hold on Earth even if Peel lifts my skull cap to the clouds. I have no desire or capacity to go 200 mph in straights or banks but I do have a lot of desire, nay plans to spank anything when there are much leans involved. The only pilots I had a time to hang turns with were those taking two lanes into blinds to stay ahead of me while I am too experienced a chicken to risk life just on a joy ride. But even with those squids taking such risk I had no problemo to hang on their tail lens or zip past them in tights where I could see far enough ahead.

Peel only has 3 handling issues, *when 4 gallon gas mass slams front tire over about a lane when its air borne in phase 4, *areo ground effects lift/drop in phase 3 straight steering half slides/skips/drifts, non crossed up no foot down that sharpens radius dramatically while accelerating, not widen it, and *power enough to stay as loose as a goose as if on THE Gravel I think with enough power Peel can enter phase 3 to 5 over the ton. Phase 2 is how all the other cycles must do turns unless ice spiked traction or MX knobby rear locked deep in soft dirt rut on about vertical banks. Ms Peel did not have to leave phase 2 - two tire traction countersteering to leap ahead of any modern from entry to exits. So not even neck and neck in Peels mere cruise to work mode let alone 3 more funner faster ways around. LOL! I guarantee going straight into a bluff face at 55 mph in 10 mph marked hook back is rather more thrilling that 200 mph on long long nice runway. I had to snick 2nd leaned to keep accelerating for the next one entered at 65 and could run up to almost 90 before throwing her sideways to get two tire edges scrubbing off speed then hi side in time to hook the other way under hi power.

I had a bad experience once in my early chicane riding with Harley hot rod which is tough act to follow even with their lack of lean, I held back to give
me some space to take a RH hook at more fun rate but as I flew around the 10 mph blind the HD was stopped on bumper of broke down car about 40 feet away with on coming car just about there, I tried trail breaking but hit sand/grit from rain wash out, that tripped front out going ~40 but was able to stab rear brake in time to get a hi side jerk up, got tires in line while off brake - which aimed me out at tangent head on into on coming grill but straight up I could brake hard enough I got front steering back re aimed into my lane and pulled up just short of hitting the Harley. WHewwee. A rider behind me swore I'd stomped my foot down like S-motard/flat trackers do but no foot down as it would have been road grabbed under the peg or tire. This all happened in like 3-4 heart beats and I had to over ride my sane brain not try to veer away from on coming until speed bled to regain directional control. i had to force eyes to where I wanted to go not where I so feared. THE Gravel taught me this in Spades. On coming car missed by couple bike lengths.

I will never ever take such risk on joy rides again. I've no ego on life death antics if someone is plainly faster than me I'll give in out their way. Like wise Peel is so fast accelerating through turns I don't have to hug close to take quick advantage of a vision open to zip right past as if slow moving parking lot cones. I do not want to maim-kill anyone over riding their skill or pitiful sport bike capacity. One of my past wiped out in traffic dead in '09, out of state buddies pointed out where he lost his ridding buddy on F1 just having fun out here - hi sided over rails down a bluff Hwy 123. I've seen pilot in several large pieces hitting stuff over 150 mph. I'm not cavalier when talking motorcycling even just sightseeing touring, as fate and stupidly always lurking.

I know next Peel will top 150 but how much more WhoTF knows but plenty fast enough to prove only advantage others might have is bee line sprints and even then may take em a bit to catch up and pass. Peel will have about best torque to mass ratio going so if I can hold front down and control power to traction I hope to out sprint "most" moderns to over my tire ratings. Peel will have Hole Shot front tuck down 3-4 inches if case forgotabout that get go feature. Peel will have rising torque curve like the 2 smokes that knock ya socks off in the rush. I am having severe issues to get 130 tire seated centered on WM3 rim.
it has centered twice out of 6 times so far, ugh. Do ya know how much shaving a tire and going tubeless raises its speed rating?

Note the road angles, it climbs steeply going 'down' from the North.
Hwy 123 = Arkansas Dragon.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZdeoheHC88[/video]

Rather wide opens-sweepers here for idea of the straights between turns that Peel had to really work at keeping up or leaving behind sports bikes of any hp. Note the lack of throttle going into turns, wisely so on moderns, hehe. Hwy 341 where I had first gas tank slosh playing with a Triumph Triple holligan I'd just meet after stopping at a gathering and yelling out Hey Who's the Hot Shot here I need to compare pecking order, everyone pointed to this fella and we had a blast. He was one who got high at the matched aggressive fun - hi 5-ing at our stops to pick a new way before parting ways. He could out run Peel in opens darn it but not run away before the next sweepers slowed him up.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_q6Ghqzato&feature=related[/video]
 
Thanks for posting those vids, Hobot. Nice roads. It would be great if you mounted a camera on your Commando with the rev counter in view at the bottom of the screen and of course we need sound too!
 
Not top speed related so much as acceleration and leaned power stick-unstick related. This gives nice flavor of the flings on near by path that easy compares to NC Dragon. The even tighter 3 miles called '"Jasper Disaster" Hwy 74 hugs plateau face from horse wagon days, is the place that I flash back on Peel as most intense ride time in my life. Not a mere corner cripple Ninja on race track chicanes. I want to have hard time focusing-tunnel vision on corners zooming in faster not slowing up to sightsee around them, sheeze.

These are light bikes so take the turns faster than the powerful sports bikes which do kick up heels in the longer opens but are slowing down all the way into apexes
: ) These places both horrify and attract me and many others. Even on triple linked totally neutral stick like ice spikes Ms Peel I can only sorta tippy toe here. To go much faster than these guys while leaned means next phase on loose tires.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCREDrv0Big&feature=related[/video]
 
Oh my! Bagger racing. What a concept. The lines look a little strange to me, but that's still some impressive riding for that kind of bike.

Ken
 
He lives there and knows that road like the back of his hand.

He did and Iron Butt ride on that section of road (1000 miles in 24 hrs.). Down and back over and over again. I suppose if anyone rode "the dragon" as much as he does, they would be pretty quick at it too.
 
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