by gory:
You can't say fairer than that, sounds like a man who will not only stand behind his product, but also trust a recipient (who he does not apparently know) to evaluate at no cost to the recipient.
I have had some very poor 'parts' from some good sources, this source is unknown to me but the attitude he is showing is quite uncommon these days. Good luck to him if he is as decent as he sounds.
REPLY- CUSTOMER SERVICE IS THE KEY TO WIN. IF WE DO NOT PROVIDE GOOD SERVICE, WE WILL NEVER GET ANY BUSINESS. SO, I WILL ALWAYS STAND BACK AND MAKE SURE ALL THE PRODUCTS ARE PERFECT FOR THE CUSTOMER.
by B.Rad:
OK Mr Tinman, . if you have not sent any yet I will have a Fastback tank.
If you take this offer up I will report on an unbiased view on what I actually find backed up by photographs.
The tank will be cut in half to actually observe the entire inside finish. So this will cost you a tank. Cutting in 2 is the best test . cant hide anything this way. Or send the tank to Charles or Tim, or to someone else but to me the TANK MUST BE CUT OPEN. never having had fuel in the tank is a big safety factor.
If you are still keen to test your tank this way PM me for postage details. CAVEAT EMPTOR: The Golden Rule
Bradley
REPLY- BRADLEY, I THINK THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR SOMETHING WHICH IS BEAUTIFULLY HAND FORMED. THIS IS NOT ABOUT MONEY BUT THIS IS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND SKILLS FABRICATOR WILL PUT IN THE FABRICATION WHICH WILL BE WASTED IN JUST A MATTER OF SECONDS. THERE ARE MANY OTHER WAYS YOU CAN TEST THE TANKS (PRESSURE TEST, DRILL A HOLE TO CHECK THE THICKNESS AS ADVISED BY ROHAN, USING A TORCH OR A SCOPE) BUT SPOILING THE TANK ISN'T A GOOD IDEA. YOU CAN TEST FIT THE TANK ON THE BIKE, PUT PETROL AND CHECK IF IT LEAKS. I THINK THAT IS ALL WHAT MATTERS.
by DogT:
Bradley, you'll probably have to contact Mr. Tinman at his business, I doubt if he reads this forum much, but yes it would be interesting to see a new FB metal tank. It would almost tempt me to get a set to have my bike look like 2 bikes.
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by Rohan:
Thats a pretty raw deal - for him ?
He sends you a tank on credit, big postage, and then you are going to destroy it ???
We'd rather hear how they perform - thats the usual test for a tank ?!
REPLY- RIGHT, THERE ARE MANY OTHER WAYS WE CAN TEST THE TANK BUT DESTROYING THE TANK ISN'T A GOOD IDEA. HOW MANY OF THE FORUM MEMBERS ARE IN FAVOR OF CUTTING THE TANK WHICH WILL END UP GOING IN THE BIN? I HAVE ANOTHER IDEA, I CAN SEND AN UN-WELDED TANK SO THAT BRADLEY CAN CHECK THE TOP WELDS, AND GET THE BOTTOM TIG-WELDED THERE. THIS WAY, HE CAN CHECK THE QUALITY AS WELL AS USE IT ON THE BIKE.
by Time Warp:
The only reason to cut a tank up is to check material thickness due to stretching (pressed or hammer formed)
At a long shot maybe if it had overlapped seams,otherwise you would use a borescope :roll:
The questions that should be asked are.
Is it a pressing or hammer formed ?
What is the material and thickness ?
How many sections and if pressed in what manner and where are the seams ?
What welding method ?
REPLY- IF WE PRESS THEM, MOLD COSTS WOULD BE AROUND 25000 DOLLARS, MINIMUM PRODUCTION HAS TO BE 1000 TANK WHICH WILL ALL BE STUCK AS THEY ARE NOT MANY MOTORCYCLES LEFT SO HAND FORMING IS THE BEST METHOD. WE USE 18 GAUGE CRCA SHEETS. ALL PRESSED TANKS USE 20-22 GAUGE SHEETS. WE USE CONVENTIONAL GAS AS WELL AS TIG WELDING.
by DogT:
Unless someone sends him a FB tank and gets the results, we will never know. It's interesting that I've heard of several people that have been pleased with his Roadster tanks though, but time will tell. I've been tempted to get a Roadster tank from him. given the reports, but I have an early bike and the later Roadster tanks are thicker at the front and the early stanchions hit the tank because of the early fork stops.
If I had a FB tank I didn't want, I'd take up his offer.
As said, this thread may go nowhere, unfortunately.\\
I've tried to get US GRP manufacturers to make Roadster tanks to no avail too.
Dave
REPLY- WHAT I CAN DO IS SEND A ROADSTER TANK TO DAVE AND HE CAN TEST IT ON THE BIKE AS WELL AS GIVE REVIEWS TO THE MEMBERS? THERE ARE 2 SHAPES IN ROADSTER TANKS, ONE IS FIBERGLASS TANK WHICH IS SMALLER AND HAS SMOOTH CURVES. THE OTHER ONE IS THE STEEL TANK WHICH IS A LITTLE BIGGER AND EDGY THAN THE FIBERGLASS TANK. WE MAKE BOTH SHAPES IN STEEL & ALUMINUM.
PLEASE ADVISE.
