Classic tinware tanks

stevo74850 · Jul 8, 2013

Where are the listings for commando roadster/interstate tanks?
I cannot see anything on either the website or ebay.

Snorton74 · Jul 9, 2013

The Partsparadise tanks I've seen recently appeared to be pretty nice. My Burton Bike Bits tank on the other hand was rusty and leaked along the pinchweld. The petcock bungs were welded in crooked and so was the gas cap housing, so the cap wouldn't open/close for shit.

bill · Jul 9, 2013

in another post you stated that you use zinc chromate primer to stop the rusting. I am pretty sure that it will not hold up to constant immersion in fuel there for causing problems with it delaminating. you would be much better off using one of the fit for use rust preventive products.

classictinware said:
Our tanks are perfect but they do require a sealer as I have seen the sheets getting rusted if we leave them for about 10 days in the open.

JimC · Jul 9, 2013

All things considered, I'm saving up my money for an Evan Wilcox tank and be done with it.

classictinware · Jul 10, 2013

bill said:
in another post you stated that you use zinc chromate primer to stop the rusting. I am pretty sure that it will not hold up to constant immersion in fuel there for causing problems with it delaminating. you would be much better off using one of the fit for use rust preventive products.

classictinware said:

Our tanks are perfect but they do require a sealer as I have seen the sheets getting rusted if we leave them for about 10 days in the open.

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YES, THAT IS WHY WE NOW SEAL ALL OUR TANKS.

classictinware · Jul 10, 2013

JimC said:
All things considered, I'm saving up my money for an Evan Wilcox tank and be done with it.

TRY OUR TANK FREE OF COST. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY THE COST OF THE TANK OR SHIPPING, IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT, YOU CAN SEND IT BACK TO US. WHICH TANK WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN PLEASE?

classictinware · Jul 10, 2013

Snorton74 said:
The Partsparadise tanks I've seen recently appeared to be pretty nice. My Burton Bike Bits tank on the other hand was rusty and leaked along the pinchweld. The petcock bungs were welded in crooked and so was the gas cap housing, so the cap wouldn't open/close for shit.

WE SUPPLY ONLY ALLOY TANKS TO BURTON SO I AM SURE YOU DID NOT GET TO SEE OUR TANK.

classictinware · Jul 10, 2013

stevo74850 said:
Where are the listings for commando roadster/interstate tanks?
I cannot see anything on either the website or ebay.

I AM CURRENTLY OUT OF TOWN AND OUR WEBSITE DOES NOT HAVE ALL THE PRODUCTS. I WILL ASK MY IT GUY TO UPLOAD THEM ASAP. LET ME HAVE YOUR MAIL ADDRESS SO I CAN SEND YOU SOME PICTURES OF THE STEEL AND ALLOY TANKS.

bill · Jul 11, 2013

here is your quote on the first time you stated about using zincromate as a sealer.

classictinware said:
We use zincromate primer to line the inside as caswell is difficult to find in India. Alloy tanks does not require lining inside.

Anil

than my response.

classictinware said:
bill said:

in another post you stated that you use zinc chromate primer to stop the rusting. I am pretty sure that it will not hold up to constant immersion in fuel there for causing problems with it delaminating. you would be much better off using one of the fit for use rust preventive products.

Our tanks are perfect but they do require a sealer as I have seen the sheets getting rusted if we leave them for about 10 days in the open.

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classictinware said:

YES, THAT IS WHY WE NOW SEAL ALL OUR TANKS.

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you state that your tanks are perfect. IF they are perfect than there should be NO need to put ANY kind of sealer in them. it is well known that there is NO sealer that will stand up to the fuels we have in the US even what HD put in there tanks are failing.
I will say it again use a proper rust preventer to coat them for storage and shipping like something along these lines.
http://www.corrosionvci.com/coatings.htm

mikegray660 · Jul 11, 2013

thats what i did and i'm happy with the purchase - being as there is over a year wait now that you should get the order in :shock:

JimC said:
All things considered, I'm saving up my money for an Evan Wilcox tank and be done with it.

chasbmw · Jul 11, 2013

I think that there is a differeance between a sealer and paint. Lots of sealers have failed after being subjected to ethanol in fuel, however the 35 year old paint finishes that BMW used on the interior of my airhead tanks seems to ibe ntact and working well.

I would want any steel tank to have a finish that will help prevent internal rust, whether or not that is zinc Chromate, that's more than my payscale.

I have PM'd classic tinware asking for photos of their fastback tanks.

classictinware · Jul 12, 2013

I WAS REFERRING THE PRIMER AS SEALER. WE DO IT BEFORE DISPATCH SO YOU JUST HAVE TO FIT THE TANK ON THE MOTORCYCLE AND RIDE

bill said:
here is your quote on the first time you stated about using zincromate as a sealer.

classictinware said:

We use zincromate primer to line the inside as caswell is difficult to find in India. Alloy tanks does not require lining inside.

Anil

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than my response.

classictinware said:

bill said:

in another post you stated that you use zinc chromate primer to stop the rusting. I am pretty sure that it will not hold up to constant immersion in fuel there for causing problems with it delaminating. you would be much better off using one of the fit for use rust preventive products.

Our tanks are perfect but they do require a sealer as I have seen the sheets getting rusted if we leave them for about 10 days in the open.

Click to expand...

classictinware said:

YES, THAT IS WHY WE NOW SEAL ALL OUR TANKS.

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

you state that your tanks are perfect. IF they are perfect than there should be NO need to put ANY kind of sealer in them. it is well known that there is NO sealer that will stand up to the fuels we have in the US even what HD put in there tanks are failing.
I will say it again use a proper rust preventer to coat them for storage and shipping like something along these lines.
http://www.corrosionvci.com/coatings.htm

B.Rad · Jul 12, 2013

To the Forum
Gidday and hope u r all well.

I just could not resist my 2 bobs worth here. I am an experienced victim or recipient of shoddy stuff. you dont always get what you paid for. As for the claims, the onus of proof is always on the person making the claims.

To the owner of Tinware:: this forum could be the best thing ever for your business. if you have bad products., your reputation will suffer. This forum is unsurpassed in knowledgeable and honest people. They will not be easily fooled. it really is up to you. Strong Evidence beats statements of claim.

Regarding these Tinman tanks. My bullshit filter is flapping a bit over the claims. There have been a few statements that are very conflicting.

1. 105 PSI test. too easily dismissed. no satisfactory explanation. If mr Tinman knew tanks do not take this why publish anyway. This may be an indicator of inattention to detail.

2. A claim that tanks are perfect. This is a big claim.

3. Claim 2 immediatly self refuted by reference that the blank sheets get rusted by exposure to weather for up to ten days BEFORE being processed. Does this infer that the insides are rusty. One could go on a bit about this, eg is rust treated before processing . One would hope so.

4. QUOTE" I WAS REFERRING THE PRIMER AS SEALER. WE DO IT BEFORE DISPATCH SO YOU JUST HAVE TO FIT THE TANK ON THE MOTORCYCLE AND RIDE "
This hole is getting deeper. Do the finished tanks with pre-rusted insides actually sit for however knows long happilyrusting away until actually despatched.

the point being that inconsistincies are showing. the claims to me have not been satisfactorily addressed. then again I was taught to be cautious .

mr Tinman would gain great credibility if he could produce verifiable (important) testimonials from even 100 of his thousands of happy customers. Then let the forum check these and reach a decision. The recent Nigerian scam is a good example of this forums cooperation.
CAVEAT EMPTOR : LET THE BUYER BEWARE
Bradley

classictinware · Jul 12, 2013

Hello Bradley,

Thanks for taking time to post on this discussion.

I would not like to explain my products in words anymore.

The best thing I can do is send a gas tank (NO TANK COST, NO SHIPPING CHARGE) until you see the tank and test it. I think nobody would do that if they do not trust their products.

Charles is asking for a Fastback tank and I would be happy to supply him one. I will not ask for any money until he is receives the tank.

I think this is the best thing I can do to prove the quality of our products.

I would never want to spoil my reputation for sending wrong / inferior products. This applies not only to NortonAccess, but all other forums as well.

As for the customer base, we supply parts to well known companies in the UK and USA like Automax Ltd, Burton Bike Bits, JRC Engineering, President of the Rudge motorcycle club (Mr. Horton), in negotiation with BritSpares and more.

I would like to know if Charles would be interested in my offer.

Looking forward to hear from him soon.

Thanks
Anil
Classic Tinware

T.H · Aug 3, 2013

Hi all, has anybody got one of the Fastback tanks as yet? If so how is the quality. Very keen to hear as i have two fastbacks and have just seen E10 advertised in Perth.
Tim

gory · Aug 4, 2013

classictinware said:
Hello Bradley,

Thanks for taking time to post on this discussion.

I would not like to explain my products in words anymore.

The best thing I can do is send a gas tank (NO TANK COST, NO SHIPPING CHARGE) until you see the tank and test it. I think nobody would do that if they do not trust their products.

Charles is asking for a Fastback tank and I would be happy to supply him one. I will not ask for any money until he is receives the tank.

I think this is the best thing I can do to prove the quality of our products.

I would never want to spoil my reputation for sending wrong / inferior products. This applies not only to NortonAccess, but all other forums as well.

As for the customer base, we supply parts to well known companies in the UK and USA like Automax Ltd, Burton Bike Bits, JRC Engineering, President of the Rudge motorcycle club (Mr. Horton), in negotiation with BritSpares and more.

I would like to know if Charles would be interested in my offer.

Looking forward to hear from him soon.

Thanks
Anil
Classic Tinware

You can't say fairer than that, sounds like a man who will not only stand behind his product, but also trust a recipient (who he does not apparently know) to evaluate at no cost to the recipient.
I have had some very poor 'parts' from some good sources, this source is unknown to me but the attitude he is showing is quite uncommon these days. Good luck to him if he is as decent as he sounds.

B.Rad · Aug 4, 2013

T.H said:
Hi all, has anybody got one of the Fastback tanks as yet? If so how is the quality. Very keen to hear as i have two fastbacks and have just seen E10 advertised in Perth.
Tim

Gidday Tim. R U just getting E10 in WA now. had it a while in QLD. never used the stuff in a bike. put a bit in my ute once to see wat its like. used a lot more, less power, and for the miniscule difference in price I dont use it at all now. Hippy fuel, good for Kombi wagons maybe.

The Indian fastback tanks, Has anyone actually got one yet.
I have 3 Fastback tanks too and would like a steel one.

OK Mr Tinman, . if you have not sent any yet I will have a Fastback tank.
If you take this offer up I will report on an unbiased view on what I actually find backed up by photographs.

The tank will be cut in half to actually observe the entire inside finish. So this will cost you a tank. Cutting in 2 is the best test . cant hide anything this way. Or send the tank to Charles or Tim, or to someone else but to me the TANK MUST BE CUT OPEN. never having had fuel in the tank is a big safety factor.

If you are still keen to test your tank this way PM me for postage details. CAVEAT EMPTOR: The Golden Rule
Bradley

DogT · Aug 4, 2013

Bradley, you'll probably have to contact Mr. Tinman at his business, I doubt if he reads this forum much, but yes it would be interesting to see a new FB metal tank. It would almost tempt me to get a set to have my bike look like 2 bikes.

My Miata is 2 tone with the rag top, but when I put the hard top on it looks like a totally different car, all one color.

Dave

Rohan · Aug 4, 2013

B.Rad said:
OK Mr Tinman, . if you have not sent any yet I will have a Fastback tank.
If you take this offer up I will report on an unbiased view on what I actually find backed up by photographs.
The tank will be cut in half to actually observe the entire inside finish. So this will cost you a tank. Cutting in 2 is the best test . cant hide anything this way. Or send the tank to Charles or Tim, or to someone else but to me the TANK MUST BE CUT OPEN. never having had fuel in the tank is a big safety factor.
If you are still keen to test your tank this way PM me for postage details. CAVEAT EMPTOR: The Golden Rule

Thats a pretty raw deal - for him ?
He sends you a tank on credit, big postage, and then you are going to destroy it ???

We'd rather hear how they perform - thats the usual test for a tank ?!

B.Rad · Aug 4, 2013

Rohan said:
Thats a pretty raw deal - for him ?
He sends you a tank on credit, big postage, and then you are going to destroy it ???

We'd rather hear how they perform - thats the usual test for a tank ?!

yes, cutting it open is to me the best indicator. if you had a potential market based on this forum alone, it is a small deal to provide one for testing. testing may also take a fair bit of time as well. and if not opened up you still have no idea of complete internal condition. by cutting it in half, takes away all the guesswork over quality. I would certainly do this if it was my manufacture. So it really is a small price to pay for the potential upside. I am coming entirely from the buyers perspective here.

I will go further to say that the majority of stuff I have seen out of India is below par at best, this includes clothing, cars, cutting tools and machine tools. Therefore I am very cautious about this.

The onus of proof is always with those making the claims. My request is not unreasonable considering ALL the circumstances.

Also Caveat Emptor ( Let the buyer beware) is a very important consideration.