Civilization is merely a thin crust on the mantle of humanity

Well look at all the propaganda that has been exposed...so far...they have effectively divided the people quite well...as intended
 
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My short guide to modern war.....

1. Get the cameras rolling and let your civilians get slaughtered...
2. Air gruesome propaganda footage of your dead civilians on all possible media sources...
3. All of your past or future crimes are forgiven.... You are now a victim who fights back against the aggressor...
4. Go on the offensive. Bomb their civilians indiscriminately. Mock their deaths. Torture PoWs...and commit any amount of war crimes you want
5. When confronted, repeat step 2...
A sad reality....
 
German Luftwaffe planes marked with WW2 style "Iron crosses" are flying into Israel to save the Jewish people.(actually their people)

The world has gone mad.
 

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KiwiShane said:
German Luftwaffe planes marked with WW2 style "Iron crosses" are flying into Israel to save the Jewish people.(actually their people)

The world has gone mad.
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The WW2 cross was the Balkenkreuz not "Iron Cross".

Balkenkreuz - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org
"The Balkenkreuz has not been used by the post-WWII German military. However, the Iron Cross used by today's German Bundeswehr unified defense forces inherits the four white, or lighter-colored, "flanks" of the Balkenkreuz that do not "cap" the ends of the cross in either case, but with the "flanks" following the flared arms of the earlier German Empire's cross pattée (Eisernes Kreuz/iron cross) instead, from the 1916-1918 era."
 
German tanks "Leopard-2" supplied moving across the territory of Poland earlier this year to Ukraine. "business as usual"....
To me regardless of the modifications made to the original "iron cross"...the people still alive in Ukraine/Russia and now Israel who remember the natzi regime insignia 80 years ago would find it a tad offensive in "my" mind....(Especially the Azov battalion insignia)
History always repeats in this 🌎
 

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KiwiShane said:
...the people still alive in Ukraine/Russia and now Israel who remember the natzi regime insignia 80 years ago would find it a tad offensive in "my" mind....
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So, a few people on their 90s then ?! Germany has used the same insignia since the end of WW2. Seems very strange it’s suddenly an ‘issue‘ to me.

Anyway, I’m pretty certain those tanks will have the Ukraine flag on them before being deployed.
 
How will the war end in Ukraine IMO
Kiev will have to sign peace with Russia, but on terms worse than they were at the beginning of the conflict

According to The National Interest, Ukraine three times had the opportunity to resolve the conflict on favorable terms, including at negotiations in Turkey. However, each time the U.S /U.K blocked the dialogue....Boris/Biden

Now the West is beginning to understand that the Ukrainians have no chance of winning....Therefore Nato is almost done...
The Neo-Nazi movement in Ukraine etc is well funded and alive as of this day...so it ain't just 90 year olds that get upset about the insignia...


www.reuters.com

Commentary: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem

As Ukraine's struggle against Russia and its proxies continues, Kiev must also contend with a growing problem behind the front lines: far-right vigilantes who are willing to use intimidation and even violence to advance their agendas, and who often do so with the tacit approval of law...
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

Yes the new tanks get tarted up alright...
 

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Maybe I should have put these up earlier for perspective for those possibly unaware of what's going on.

www.bbc.com

Australia to introduce national ban on Nazi symbols

Displays of the symbols will be punishable by jail terms, amid a resurgence in far-right activity.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

www.nbcnews.com

Pro-Hamas extremists and neo-Nazis flood social media with calls for violence

Law enforcement officials are concerned about attacks on Jewish Americans, as well as Arab Americans and Muslim Americans, over the events in Israel and Gaza.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
 
KiwiShane said:
Maybe I should have put these up earlier for perspective for those possibly unaware of what's going on.

www.bbc.com

Australia to introduce national ban on Nazi symbols

Displays of the symbols will be punishable by jail terms, amid a resurgence in far-right activity.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

www.nbcnews.com

Pro-Hamas extremists and neo-Nazis flood social media with calls for violence

Law enforcement officials are concerned about attacks on Jewish Americans, as well as Arab Americans and Muslim Americans, over the events in Israel and Gaza.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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To me that’s not perspective at all !

German is not Nazi.

Nazi is not German.

NO German tanks have been supplied to Ukraine, or German planes landed in Isreal, with Nazi regalia on them.
 
Any nazi regalia is illegal in the Vaterland. Period.
Keep in mind that we know almost nothing about the situation in Ukraine. Not good bad or
indifferent. Many of us will not live long enough for the truth to come out.
Rather like the shooting of President Kennedy.
 
Fast Eddie said:
To me that’s not perspective at all !

German is not Nazi.

Nazi is not German.

NO German tanks have been supplied to Ukraine, or German planes landed in Isreal, with Nazi regalia on them.
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Right...to back up my post of supplied weaponary and to add further perspective to your comments..
I agree Germany is no longer nazi...but

www.reuters.com

Two German flights to take materials to Israel, bring citizens back

Two German air force planes will fly to Israel with materials and bring back German citizens who want to leave the country, a spokesperson for the defence ministry said on Saturday, adding the planes were not part of a military evacuation.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com


 
KiwiShane said:
Right...to back up my post of supplied weaponary and to add further perspective to your comments..
I agree Germany is no longer nazi...but

www.reuters.com

Two German flights to take materials to Israel, bring citizens back

Two German air force planes will fly to Israel with materials and bring back German citizens who want to leave the country, a spokesperson for the defence ministry said on Saturday, adding the planes were not part of a military evacuation.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com


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Sorry mate, you’ve lost me…

I didn’t say there were no tanks or planes (if that’s your point?) I said there were none with nazi regalia on them …
 
Well there it is.... 🐟
Egypt Intelligence Minister phoned Israel to warn them. The warning was ignored. This is of course is in addition to the thousands of other warnings detected by their intelligence services.

www.timesofisrael.com

Egypt intelligence official says Israel ignored repeated warnings of ‘something big’

Cairo official says Israel focused on West Bank instead of Gaza; Egypt's spy chief said to warn PM of 'terrible operation,' Netanyahu denies it
www.timesofisrael.com www.timesofisrael.com
 

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Sorry mate, you’ve lost me…

I didn’t say there were no tanks or planes (if that’s your point?) I said there were none with nazi regalia on them …
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Actually I never said that either I said....
German Luftwaffe planes marked with WW2 style "Iron crosses" are flying into Israel to save the Jewish people.(actually their people)...Guess I jumped on your word supply......my bad

This issue is not new ..and has also been very contentious for alot of peace loving German citizens 👇..I guess Zelensky wears the modified out law biker style one as a sign of courage...
www.atlanticcouncil.org

Germany's Iron Cross a New Symbol of Hope?

On Monday, for the first time since 1945, German soldiers were awarded the Iron Cross for bravery on the field of battle. The ancient Teutonic
www.atlanticcouncil.org www.atlanticcouncil.org
 

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KiwiShane said:
Actually I never said that either I said....
German Luftwaffe planes marked with WW2 style "Iron crosses" are flying into Israel to save the Jewish people.(actually their people)...Guess I jumped on your word supply......my bad

This issue is not new ..and has also been very contentious for alot of peace loving German citizens 👇..I guess Zelensky wears the modified out law biker style one as a sign of courage...
www.atlanticcouncil.org

Germany's Iron Cross a New Symbol of Hope?

On Monday, for the first time since 1945, German soldiers were awarded the Iron Cross for bravery on the field of battle. The ancient Teutonic
www.atlanticcouncil.org www.atlanticcouncil.org
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The sentence of yours that I initially responded to was this one:

...the people still alive in Ukraine/Russia and now Israel who remember the natzi regime insignia 80 years ago would find it a tad offensive in "my" mind....

So you did make a point about WW2 style markings being used… and about victims of Nazis being offended…

I was simply trying to understand you overall point. Something that I still don’t !
 
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