Center Stand Issue (2020)

Onder · Jun 14, 2020

That whole set up just reeks of CHEAP.
Well that about covers most brit bikes back then.
Different era.

olympus · Jun 14, 2020

Onder said:
That whole set up just reeks of CHEAP.
Well that about covers most brit bikes back then.
Different era.

If only....speak to any New Norton owner with clutch issues

swooshdave · Jun 14, 2020

kerinorton said:
I found the easiest way to fit the spring on the centre stand was to fit it before putting the bolts in from the inside out. Put the bolt that is furthest away from the spring in first, then its easy to lever the stand pivoting on that first bolt, to get the second bolt in.
Dereck

That’s how I fit the spring back in. The washers just made it easier to get out since I had them handy.

swooshdave · Jun 14, 2020

L.A.B. said:

I’ve got a hook like that but this spring was too stiff for me to pull.

swooshdave · Jun 14, 2020

Fast Eddie said:
Swoosh... we’re #33 posts and a YouTube video into this...

Time to buy a spring a then see what’s what...

It’s not my fault you guys don’t have anything better to do than post all day.

I know you’re new around here but I’m pretty sure I’ve had threads go way longer for a lot less exciting issues.

maylar · Jun 14, 2020

swooshdave said:
I’ve got a hook like that but this spring was too stiff for me to pull.

My spring stretcher is a length of 16 gauge wire tied at both ends to a 6" length of wooden dowel. Bike on its wheels on the side stand, me sitting on the floor. Loop the wire around the spring loop and pull with both hands while keeping my foot against the footrest, which keeps the bike from moving. A piece of masking tape on the stand with a sharpie line on the back side identifying where the hole is (the hole can't be seen from the back). It's easier with a helper holding the bike upright and applying the front brake.

maylar · Jun 14, 2020

swooshdave said:
It’s not my fault you guys don’t have anything better to do than post all day.

Hey, we need something to do while in lockdown. Thank God for Accessnorton.

Fast Eddie · Jun 14, 2020

swooshdave said:
It’s not my fault you guys don’t have anything better to do than post all day.

I know you’re new around here but I’m pretty sure I’ve had threads go way longer for a lot less exciting issues.

Fair points...

Well put...!

swooshdave · Jun 14, 2020

maylar said:
My spring stretcher is a length of 16 gauge wire tied at both ends to a 6" length of wooden dowel. Bike on its wheels on the side stand, me sitting on the floor. Loop the wire around the spring loop and pull with both hands while keeping my foot against the footrest, which keeps the bike from moving. A piece of masking tape on the stand with a sharpie line on the back side identifying where the hole is (the hole can't be seen from the back). It's easier with a helper holding the bike upright and applying the front brake.

Since my spring will need to come off again the next time I’ll video the process. I’ve tried it several ways and hooking the spring up first is by far the easiest.

Tornado · Jun 14, 2020

swooshdave said:
Since my spring will need to come off again the next time I’ll video the process. I’ve tried it several ways and hooking the spring up first is by far the easiest.

Thats same method ive used on modern bonnevilles, for CS and SS. Good to know such methods are generally applicable.

cliffa · Jun 14, 2020

L.A.B. said:

I liked it so much I just went and made one out of 6mm reinforcing rod. Of course the short handle on one side is intentional

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swooshdave · Jun 14, 2020

cliffa said:
I liked it so much I just went and made one out of 6mm reinforcing rod. Of course the short handle on one side is intentional ...
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Does that get hardened so it won't bend?

cliffa · Jun 14, 2020

swooshdave said:
Does that get hardened so it won't bend?

Well, I heated to cherry and then quenched it, but at the base of the hook it's still 4mm so will take a lot of pulling I would say. Just waiting for an excuse to use it now....

kerinorton · Jun 14, 2020

"A suitably bent quarter inch rod welded to the tube would be my solution. I don't like the hole in the tube method, road crud/ salt could get in there and start rusting your frame tube from the inside out."

That's what I did, although I used a 5/16 nut. Doing that also improved the angle to ensure the stand was held up tighter.

L A B. I don't have the strength or agility to use a tool like that on that centre stand spring. Fast Eddie, usually the only time you need to refit the spring is when you have had the stand off. Why bother?

Fast Eddie · Jun 14, 2020

kerinorton said:
Fast Eddie, usually the only time you need to refit the spring is when you have had the stand off. Why bother?

Cos generally I don’t have the stand on, but I re fit it when working on it or when it’s laid up for winter etc. So that spring fitting is a rather abnormally frequent task for me !

Nortonbsa010 · Mar 9, 2022

I do believe that most center stands were removed because of noise from bouncing against the frame. Stronger spring definitely would help . I have a 70 commando S,also a 67 BSA with a center stand that works very well. The commando stand was already remove at the time I bought the bike. Making my own hardware to reattach it.

Mart UK · Mar 9, 2022

Nortonbsa010 said:
I do believe that most center stands were removed because of noise from bouncing against the frame. Stronger spring definitely would help . I have a 70 commando S,also a 67 BSA with a center stand that works very well. The commando stand was already remove at the time I bought the bike. Making my own hardware to reattach it.

Does a stock replacement spring (like those from AN) stop the stand bouncing against the frame, or does it need a different / stronger spring?