1973 Norton Commando 750 Gus Kuhn

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Rohan said:
This is getting peculiar then ?
All the actual 1973 750 pics in Roy Bacon have alloy instrument housings.

Certainly not "all" '73 models and Roy Bacon wrote a number of Norton books, and there are certainly some oddities, and one or two photos may be incorrectly captioned, but 750 MkV Commandos should have the deeper black instrument pods, rectangular tail lamp, etc..


Rohan said:
And how can there be mention of high-compression 750 motors in 1973 ??

Two compression options were available after Combat production ended, the "high compression " (but not as high as the Combat) with the RH6 cylinder head, and the "low compression" with RH5 head.
 
Rohan said:
Thomasdunstall said:
look at the mkV Roadster with black instrument holders, square rear-light etc...it's a '73 model year...

This is getting peculiar then ?
All the actual 1973 750 pics in Roy Bacon have alloy instrument housings.
And how can there be mention of high-compression 750 motors in 1973 ??

This brochure is showing bikes that were not produced like that then ?

Rohan I believe the high-compression 750 motors is referring to the new 1973 short stroke engine and not to the combat, as staded by this other brochure 73 line-up
http://classicbike.biz/Norton/Brochures/1970/1973NortonLineUp.pdf
as you can see the 73 bikes had special seat pattern (only for 73) and had black instrument holders, new rear lignt and other less evident differences of course as the 932 amals and cylinder head RH6 with 9.3:1 compression and 32mm port and RH7 with 10.0:1 compression and 32mm ports for the short stroke
Les could you confirm?
 
first of all we will ask to the NOC their info on this bike
then we'll do some research in italy trying to chat with the dealers of those days...
 
It has previously been discussed here that NONE of the short stroke 750 road bikes were built/sold though ?

And the Roy Bacon book I was referring to is "Norton Twin Resto".
All of the bikes shown as 73 750 models have alloy instrument pods.
In fact, I don't believe I have ever seen a pic of an actual 750 with black housings ?
Nor twin pinstripes ?, like you often see them restored to
(not PR models, obviously, since they don't have pinstripes).

So is this brochure showing bikes that weren't actually built as such....

Don't know how this advances this discussion any.
It will be interesting to see what the factory records show for it.
 
Rohan said:
It has previously been discussed here that NONE of the short stroke 750 road bikes were built/sold though ?

But, did anyone specifically mention road bikes only?

Rohan said:
And the Roy Bacon book I was referring to is "Norton Twin Resto".
All of the bikes shown as 73 750 models have alloy instrument pods.

Then I suggest you have another look? The "1973 Hi-Rider" on page 203 being one example.



Rohan said:
In fact, I don't believe I have ever seen a pic of an actual 750 with black housings ?

Then, you obviously couldn't have been looking properly?
1973 Norton Commando 750 Gus Kuhn
 
Rohan, sorry you need to re-type your post again.
 
Rohan said:
In fact, I don't believe I have ever seen a pic of an actual 750 with black housings ?
L.A.B. said:
Now you are moving the goal posts. A pic. is a pic.

If the brochures are showing pics of bikes as they weren't built,
or as half-done artists retouched pics of next years models,
then we could get seriously mislead here....

Repeat - Anyone got a real life 73 750 with black instruments pods. ?
Or ever even seen one....

P.S. What is going on here - are you editing into my posts ??
 
I must have hit Edit instead of Quote (the buttons are a bit too close together) please try again, sorry.
 
I think there is plenty of evidence from previous discussions that the '73 MkV models had the black pods and rectangular tail lamp.
what-mark-t11200.html#p126974

The "1973 Commando MkV" (according to Bacon) on pages 205 and 143 is not MkV spec. although it does have a grab rail. I'm not sure the grass makes it any more genuine.
He does caption MkVs correctly in his other books.

The photo captioned "1973 Interstate" on page 154 appears to be a '72 model Combat, and a relatively early one at that, as it doesn't have the spin-on oil filter fitted from mid-'72-on. Nothing there to suggest it isn't anything other than a wrongly captioned photo.

The 750 from 212278 (& 850) parts book only lists the 'MkV' parts.
http://www.classicbike.biz/Norton/Parts ... _73-74.pdf

In Steve Wilson's Norton book, there's another photo of that same "1973 MkV" Roadster on the grass, only this time it's captioned as a: 1972 MkIV.
 
the black pods were introduced with the Veglia instruments and are more deep to fit the Veglia, still at the same time fitted smiths instruments with longer bolts if I am right
I've a couple of fiends with 73 roadster and both had replace pods and rear light with the 72 model...
I believe many commando owners did the same trasformation...that's why you don't see many black pods on bikes :lol:
 
some news,
the bike is a 1972 was registered in 1973
engine/frame is 2051xx and is very close in production to my 72 Roadster 2053XX built 1972 march
could be february 72?
 
Thomasdunstall said:
some news,
the bike is a 1972 was registered in 1973
engine/frame is 2051xx and is very close in production to my 72 Roadster 2053XX built 1972 march
could be february 72?

1972 does sound to make it fit better into the history of these things ...
 
Thats a strange paint scheme for a supposed 1973 model 750 ??
Does the brochure show anything like that ???

L.A.B. said:

Note that the brochure which sparked this line of comments didn't include any 850's,
so had to have been printed/assembled in (later) 1972...

Maybe I just haven't been paying attention to 73 750 instrument pods.....
 
Rohan said:
Thats a strange paint scheme for a supposed 1973 model 750 ??
Does the brochure show anything like that ???

Which bike? :?
Croxford's bike (NOR 750L) is a black 750 Roadster with the usual '750' single-line 'D' pinstripe.
 
L.A.B. said:
Croxford's bike (NOR 750L) is a black 750 Roadster with the usual '750' single-line 'D' pinstripe.

Is that shown in a brochure anywhere for 1973 ?
 
Rohan said:
L.A.B. said:
Croxford's bike (NOR 750L) is a black 750 Roadster with the usual '750' single-line 'D' pinstripe.

Is that shown in a brochure anywhere for 1973 ?

Hang on, you said previously "If the brochures are showing pics of bikes as they weren't built, or as half-done artists retouched pics of next years models, then we could get seriously mislead here...."

Now you're asking for a brochure picture as proof!
Make up your mind. :?

The colour scheme is listed in the '73 parts book: "Roadster Black/Gold lining (750 only)".
 
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