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This is a single so clutch is not same as the twin's servo clutch .
Paul
A Norton clutch is sufficient to hold a Vincent motor. And then you can do decent gear changes.
This is a single so clutch is not same as the twin's servo clutch .
Paul
Between my brother and his friends there are 5 Vincent speedway outfits. My brother is always working on them. The other day he said ' if there is ever way to do something the wrong way when making a motorcycle, it has been done on a Vincent'. Every bolt is a special - it means you are always in the hands of the dealers. Phil Irving was an Australian, so we should all love Vincents. But he also designed Velocettes - another piece of crap. I actually knew him. I had to laugh, one of my mates shit-canned him at a race meeting, within hearing of his widow.
Phil Irving was a good guy and a very clever engineer, but his designs suck. Vincents and Velocettes are headache material. .
Between my brother and his friends there are 5 Vincent speedway outfits. My brother is always working on them. The other day he said ' if there is ever way to do something the wrong way when making a motorcycle, it has been done on a Vincent'. Every bolt is a special - it means you are always in the hands of the dealers. Phil Irving was an Australian, so we should all love Vincents. But he also designed Velocettes - another piece of crap. I actually knew him. I had to laugh, one of my mates shit-canned him at a race meeting, within hearing of his widow.
You missed one Alan,Phil Irving was an Australian, so we should all love Vincents. But he also designed Velocettes - another piece of crap.
Between my brother and his friends there are 5 Vincent speedway outfits. My brother is always working on them. The other day he said ' if there is ever way to do something the wrong way when making a motorcycle, it has been done on a Vincent'. Every bolt is a special - it means you are always in the hands of the dealers. Phil Irving was an Australian, so we should all love Vincents. But he also designed Velocettes - another piece of crap. I actually knew him. I had to laugh, one of my mates shit-canned him at a race meeting, within hearing of his widow.
in defence of velocette the engines were strong and reliable but that clutch was a joke too
Maybe so, but do tell us what other bike manufacturer has done 100 mph for 24 hours? This record has stood since the 1960s. All I did for the clutch was make a steel bar and file a flat onto it and followed workshop manual,s instructions to get a working clutch! - which I admit that I didn't understand the first time.
That's a very impressive achievement.On 18 March 1961 a factory-prepared Velocette Venom Clubman with fairing set the 24-hour world record at an average speed of 100.05 mph (161.01 km/h).[2][18] It was the first motorcycle of any size to top the 100 mph in 24 hours and, as at 2008, no motorcycle of the same capacity has been able to equal or improve on this record.[4] The record attempt took place at the Montlhéry oval track, a 2.7 km (1.7 miles) concrete track just outside Paris with a very uneven road surface and poor track lighting.[19] A team of six French riders were accompanied by Motor Cycling journalist Bruce Main-Smith, who achieved the best lap time of 107 mph despite the poor lighting conditions. After securing the 12-hour record at more than 104 mph (167 km/h), the team went on to complete the 24-hour endurance record attempt. Stopping only to change riders and refuel (from a bucket using a funnel), the Venom secured the world record. The publicity was very important for Velocette, as the success revived sales of the Venom, which went on to become one of Velocette's best-selling motorcycles.[16] The Venom which set the 24-hour world record is on display at the British National Motorcycle Museum.[20]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocette_Venom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Walker_(motorcycling)
Even Paul Dunstall who had riders on a tuned dunstall 750 couldn't beat it at Monza
Have you seen the price of Norton inter parts? Obviously not - you can buy a Velo for the price of a ohc engine!One of the nicest bikes I have seen in recent years was a nut and bolt perfect Clubman' Velocette. I know why guys love them, but a Norton Inter would be more practical. These days, you could build a very nice Inter out of race parts, for road use. A while ago, I saw a very straight featherbed pushrod engine Norton which was not expensive, all you would need would be the Works Norton engine.
You think?I like to look at Velocettes. I would not like to own one. That gearbox arrangement means you cannot use anything but a Velocette gearbox.
Why on earth would anyone fit anything other than a Vincent cylinder head on a Vincent engine!?I like to look at Velocettes. I would not like to own one. That gearbox arrangement means you cannot use anything but a Velocette gearbox. A Vincent cylinder head is similar. If you own an 880 JAP, there are many cylinder heads which can be fitted. I have even seen one with two 4 valve Rudge heads. What amazes me about the Vincents is that the 880 JAP is faster, if more fragile.
There are two ex-works DOHC KTT Velocettes here in Australia. They were brought back by Frank Mussett - a 350 and a 500. However if you want to historic race, they are not the bikes to do it with.
I like to look at Velocettes. I would not like to own one. That gearbox arrangement means you cannot use anything but a Velocette gearbox. A Vincent cylinder head is similar. If you own an 880 JAP, there are many cylinder heads which can be fitted. I have even seen one with two 4 valve Rudge heads. What amazes me about the Vincents is that the 880 JAP is faster, if more fragile.
There are two ex-works DOHC KTT Velocettes here in Australia. They were brought back by Frank Mussett - a 350 and a 500. However if you want to historic race, they are not the bikes to do it with.
Actually all manufacturers that are making VTwins are making nice heads for their engines, that's not a reason to put them on a Vincent engine!i dare say if the vincent heads were not part of the frame integrity some one would have tried grafting on something else ! now ,Eric buel made some nice heads for v twins didnt he