Trail Braking Derangement Syndrome

ashman said:

..... have your bike set up right and really no need for braking at all while in a corner, slow your bike down before the corner and no need to use your brake for that.....

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acotrel said:

When I was commenting on braking and cornering somebody mentioned that I was talking about doing it while in a LEAN. If you are ever riding a race motorcycle on a race track, DO NOT counter-steer to get it to tip into a corner. Everything on a racetrack which involves corners is usually done on a lean - going in or coming out. With inexperienced riders, there is often a part in the middle of a corner where they and neither braking nor accelerating. The trick to improving is the shorten that distance. With a good handling race bike, it can often be flicked into a corner while braking and immediately accelerated, all the way around the corner. The rider adapts to the motorcycle. Hailwood learned to ride on a championship winning race bike - somebody else had all the crashes. Surtees learned the hard way by building his own race bikes. A road bike is a good way to start road racing, but a Manx Norton shapes the rider and is also very safe. Geoff Duke began that way. What you see happening on a race track is very different to what happens on public roads. With race motorcycles, two strokes are usually less self-steering than four strokes because of their power bands, so there are two ways of being fast in corners. A two-stroke usually takes the high line, with the four-cylinder bikes. There is no oncoming traffic on a race track.

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acotrel said:

When I was commenting on braking and cornering somebody mentioned that I was talking about doing it while in a LEAN. If you are ever riding a race motorcycle on a race track, DO NOT counter-steer to get it to tip into a corner. Everything on a racetrack which involves corners is usually done on a lean - going in or coming out. With inexperienced riders, there is often a part in the middle of a corner where they and neither braking nor accelerating. The trick to improving is the shorten that distance. With a good handling race bike, it can often be flicked into a corner while braking and immediately accelerated, all the way around the corner. The rider adapts to the motorcycle. Hailwood learned to ride on a championship winning race bike - somebody else had all the crashes. Surtees learned the hard way by building his own race bikes. A road bike is a good way to start road racing, but a Manx Norton shapes the rider and is also very safe. Geoff Duke began that way. What you see happening on a race track is very different to what happens on public roads. With race motorcycles, two strokes are usually less self-steering than four strokes because of their power bands, so there are two ways of being fast in corners. A two-stroke usually takes the high line, with the four-cylinder bikes. There is no oncoming traffic on a race track.

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